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11/21/2005 7:39:27 PM EDT
Im headed to the holy grail of Garand storage and sales, and I have limited info.

Please tell me, if you had piles of Garands to go thru, what you would look for & at, other than ME & TE, on any Garand you were thinking of buying.



Thanks!




And you know I will be back with pics of the piles and the picks!!!!




11/21/2005 8:08:20 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Im headed to the holy grail of Garand storage and sales, and I have limited info.

Please tell me, if you had piles of Garands to go thru, what you would look for & at, other than ME & TE, on any Garand you were thinking of buying.



Thanks!




And you know I will be back with pics of the piles and the picks!!!!








The one with the nicest stock of course!!!!!!  ha ha ha ha .  I've heard they got cleaning kits there so you can see what kind of bore it has.  And they'll let you use the muzzle and chamber gauge.  Just look for the lowest numbers in those with a nice shiny bore, and tiiiiiiiiiiight, stock lock up.  Which I don't think they'll let you check that, but I could be wrong.  You could check the gas cylinder to see if it's tight, but I don't know if any of them are when they're surplus like that.   Good luck and have fun.
11/21/2005 9:15:32 PM EDT
[#2]
when i sifted thru the Danish less wood back in August, I looked for a usgi barrel with good #'s, (i didn't want a VAR, but there wasn't many of those out at the time) and then looked at the finish on the gas cyl and oprod, (both had very little wear to the finish)
when I had the chance to gauge it later, the op rod gas piston and cyl gauged like new.
i was fortunate to have a nice GI stock at home,  and the gun shoots great with the Greek .06

just remember the small parts can be replaced very easily, and you may want to replace the springs anyway,,


if you can take a pair or 2 of latex gloves, and a shop rag or too,,
those guns are all very greasy

11/21/2005 9:24:33 PM EDT
[#3]

So TE & ME & shiny bore..........check

This is starting to sound a lot easier than I had thought.






Quoted:
if you can take a pair or 2 of latex gloves, and a shop rag or too,,
those guns are all very greasy



I think this may end up being great advice I would have never thought of.

11/22/2005 3:29:58 AM EDT
[#4]
I would bring a flashlight, the lighting isn't the best.
If you'll be looking for barrel dates and
other markings it will be tough without one.

Mark
11/22/2005 9:03:48 AM EDT
[#5]
I'd definitely look for nice wood, low MW and TE, and as many matching parts as possible, OR, for a nice Garand that has a SA rear sight, since my SA that I have at home really only needs a SA rear sight to be nearly 100% SA.  If this is your first Garand, just get the one with the lowest MW/TE with the nicest stock that calls to you .

Otherwise lockbar style rear sights are always good .

Edit:  Yes, a flashlight is a must!  And the latex gloves are a good idea, along with a shop towel.  Ooo, don't forget to look for some nice strong cartouches on the stock.
11/22/2005 9:10:12 AM EDT
[#6]
I'm planning on doing the same thing sometime early next year.  So it's stupid question time.  What is TE and ME and how do I check them?
11/22/2005 10:37:10 AM EDT
[#7]
Generally speaking, the best non-collectible, shooter Garands are the late mfr date SA and H+R.
11/22/2005 11:10:56 AM EDT
[#8]
I could care less about its collectors value.  I'm a shooter.  A major part of my interest in getting a Garand is that I've got several cans of .30-06 in Garand clips and they're getting lonely, so I thought that I'd buy a gun to go with them.
11/22/2005 11:52:43 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I'm planning on doing the same thing sometime early next year.  So it's stupid question time.  What is TE and ME and how do I check them?



ME= Muzzle Erosion

TE = Throat Erosion

These are general idicators of barrel wear. You need gages to check them. I think CMP may allow you to use the ones they have. You can also buy them at Brownell's....I think. Or maybe it was Fulton Armory that I got mine at....I forget
11/22/2005 1:19:47 PM EDT
[#10]
IMHO, if you are going to the CMP (and it's your first time) you can't go wrong with having one of the employees help you pick one out.  Just tell them what you are looking for (collector, shooter, etc).  I had Peewee pick out my first two (meant to get one, but you know how that goes).  Left behind a nice rack grade Winchester back in '03 that I kick myself about every time I think about it.  
11/22/2005 2:35:02 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm planning on doing the same thing sometime early next year.  So it's stupid question time.  What is TE and ME and how do I check them?



ME= Muzzle Erosion

TE = Throat Erosion

These are general idicators of barrel wear. You need gages to check them. I think CMP may allow you to use the ones they have. You can also buy them at Brownell's....I think. Or maybe it was Fulton Armory that I got mine at....I forget



Thanks, I'm familiar with both muzzle and throat erosion, I just didn't catch the abbreviations.  
11/22/2005 2:57:15 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
 Just tell them what you are looking for (collector, shooter, etc).  I had Peewee pick out my first two



I was wondering how much help they would be.


I will tell PeeWee Nova said to "Hook a brotha up".


Thanks!

11/22/2005 3:46:50 PM EDT
[#13]
Before I was just looking forward to going there and picking up a Garand in person, now I'm DYING to go there and it's all your fault for starting this thread CavVet!

11/22/2005 4:54:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Tagged for pics
11/22/2005 8:36:27 PM EDT
[#15]
I had to add this IM I got today......


when you walk in then room is divided into 2 sections, first part is where you pay, do the paperwork, and where they keep the Ammo, it was on pallets when i was up for the nationals,
the backside of the room is a caged area, i'm guessing at 24x30ish, with a counter on one side to hold the gun you want and start the paperwork, and the rest is racks loaded with rifles,
each rack was labeled, as in 1903, 1903a3, m1 service grade etc, with a small section for the 1917's and 22's,
the danish less wood were laying on a wire rack, you can handle anything you want, but they discourage dis-assembly, at least they did then,

some of the guns had the T&E and muzzle marked on a tag, some didn't
they had gauges to loan when i was there for muzzle, and they will gauge the T&E for you,

you will want a rag or 2 and if possible latex or vinyl gloves, all were greasy, but the greeks were the worst,

the guys and gals that work there are the nicest you will meet,
be sure to have all the paperwork you need, club membership, birth certifiate etc, or if you have a customer # from a previous purchase take that with you, (makes it a lot faster,provided memberships are current, your # is good forever)

they put my rifle in a plastic bag, to keep the grease at bay,





THANKS A ZILLION TO THE SENDER!!!!

11/23/2005 3:14:09 PM EDT
[#16]
diddo what everybody has said so far and to check the gas cylinder jus hold the rifle by the stock not the hand gaurds and try and wiggle it side to side if it moves you will lose about .5-1.5 moa out of it, but it is an easy fix.  look for matching manufacture parts and if you have one handy a serial # guide to see what year the reciever was made, then try to to find a matching brl date. My H+R is a cmp gun and it was all correct with a beat to hell stock (typical cmp) fortunately I knew where an H+R stock was for a reasonable price. another bonus the rest of the gun was all H+R when I got it ...hell you saw it at the last LCR Cav. btw how the carbine treating ya?
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