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3/9/2005 9:14:42 PM EDT
Is there a website that identifies where the different cartouches came from?

Can you look at these and tell if it was a Greek or Danish loaner rifle??
3/10/2005 2:50:35 AM EDT
[#1]
A "cartouche" is the final inspection mark applies by the manufacturer or the arsenal which rebuilt the rifle.  It's stamped on the stock, normally on the left side above the trigger.

Tracing these is difficult many times because "stocks is stocks" and no one keeps them with the barrel group when cleaning and during servicing.

Replacement stocks may have different marke.  Not sure if the Greeks and Danes marked their stocks.

-- Chuck
3/10/2005 3:31:22 AM EDT
[#2]
Word of caution if you're looking at buying a stock with a nicely struck cartouche - FAKES are everywhere Especially E-Bay.  Please ask about the sellers before you buy or begin your bidding.
3/10/2005 7:23:59 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Word of caution if you're looking at buying a stock with a nicely struck cartouche - FAKES are everywhere Especially E-Bay.  Please ask about the sellers before you buy or begin your bidding.



+1 on this. People on Ebay actually sell the cartouche stamps from time to time. And I've seen them for sale on Garand related web sites before.
3/10/2005 12:34:15 PM EDT
[#4]
So it is generally considered to be more valuable if it has the stamp?

I figured that would indicate extended ware if it had a bunch of cartouch stamps.

I guess vintage collectors see it as MORE valuable and shooters consider it LESS valuable...
3/10/2005 2:28:44 PM EDT
[#5]
The most collectable is a single maker final inspection mark with the correct initials for the serial number of the rifle.  Multplie marks indicate rebuilds or arsenal "clean and repair" and detract from collectability.

Collectors seem to want rifles issued to cooks, clerks, or other folks who never used them enough to wear out any parts...

Restoring an old war horse to near issued condition is a harmless hobby.  My 1942 Springfield M1 is pretty much original as received from CMP several years ago, but had late internal parts.

-- Chuck
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