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11/18/2004 6:14:22 AM EDT
10 -12 years ago my M1A had a headspace problem, it had too much. I had it re-barrelled.
My question is, would the old barrel be useful for a new build? Any way to check/gauge it?
11/18/2004 9:31:47 AM EDT
[#1]
Depends. Who is the manufacturer? If not a H&R, TRW or Winchester or other chromed GI spec barrel it may be possible to fit it with a tight spec new receiver and bolt, then if the headspace is short, chamber ream it. You may have to try a few dozen bolts.
11/18/2004 3:57:55 PM EDT
[#2]
It's a TRW. So it would be a hit or miss deal, might work with the right combination of parts?
11/18/2004 8:34:46 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
It's a TRW. So it would be a hit or miss deal, might work with the right combination of parts?




Yep.

The receiver will give you the most variance. (ie if your old BBL was fit to another rec) And then selectively fitting a bolt.
11/20/2004 4:54:46 AM EDT
[#4]
Your barrel and chamber was probably fine.

Many gunsmiths will sell you a new barrel based on your "excessive headspace."  Problem is they're using the wrong gage either because (1) ignorance or (2) they want to sell you a new barrel and feed off headspacephobia, the irrational fear of excessive headspace.

If you use the SAAMI ".308 Winchester" gages your rifle can swollow the Field Reject gage and still be well with in M14 specs.  Self loading rifles need more chamber room for auto loading.  A M1A or M14 which "almost closes" on a SAAMI Field Reject gage is in near perfect GO condition, not a candidate for a new (expensive) barrel.  

I invite citations where "excessive headspace" has caused any damage or injury.  General Hatcher  used a grinder to induce massive headspace and was unable to get such damage.  Unless you're shooting benchrest with custom loaded cartridges you won't notice any accuracy differences either.

Here's the gages in inches:

Gage - M14 - SAMMI
GO - 1.634 - 1.630
NOGO - 1.638 - 1.634
FIELD - 1.6445 - 1.638

NO-GO is a factory gage (or match gage) designed to ensure maximum barrel life.  Once in your hands a rifle is only expected to meet FIELD gage specs.

-- Chuck
11/20/2004 8:51:42 AM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for the responses all.
Changing out to a heavy barrel seemed like the thing to do at the time. I was just getting into highpower and wanted build it into a tack driver. Then I found that I shot the little black rifle better...
Learned a lot about Mil. vs. commercial chambers since then. Now reading that most of the surplus parts are gone I remembered that old barrel was laying around here somewhere. Hmmm I've got a new bolt too. Might have to use it in the future. (Visions of that problem Chicom M-14 clone that some frustrated owner can't wait to get rid of.)  
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