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Posted: 11/15/2004 6:31:41 PM EDT
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CMP has Lake City M2 ball that is delinked. I assume the linked stuff was used in the 1917/1919 machineguns. Was the linked stuff loaded hotter than the rifle ammo to operate the big assed open bolt configuration? Can anyone vouch for accuracy of the LC delinked? Machineguns are not precission shooters so as far as I know they may have had lower standards for MG ammo. In short, has anyone shot this stuff and does it shoot well? I have a Garand with a '52 barrel in pristene condition and am not anxious to shoot Korean out of it. |
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Get ya some, that is good stuff, works great in my Garand. I got a case in Friday, 960 rounds, that is the only way you can buy it from the CMP is by the case, unless you drive to the north store. Good Mil-surp ammo is getting hard to find, stock up while you can. Dont shoot regular commercial ammo through it, the ammo to higher pressures and will bend your OP rod, not a good thing. |
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M2 ball was M2 ball. The us did not make "machine gun use only" like some other countries. It was the same ammo. Anyway, commericial ammo is lot loaded to high pressures but a lot of it uses slow buring powder that causes the pressure at the gas port to be too high for the garand's gas system, causing undue wear on the rifle. This was very brief but it outlines the general concept. If you don't buy the LC surplus the CMP is selling, then I'll buy it. It's the best deal around right now. |
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On my third case of the new CMP stuff and very pleased, great practice ammo, not quite the quality of Lake City Match or Federal Gold Medal in terms of achieving target accuracy, but certainly seems just as good as the Danish stuff that was on the market until recently. I believe it is however M2 AP even though it doesn't have black tips. I am intending to pull one and weigh it to see what the actual bullet weight is. As CMP advises, just hold a magnet near it and you will see evidense of a steel core. We have a retired IPSC prop that is an 8" steel "gong" plate. It is supposed to be made of armor plate steel, its hanging out at our range at 100 yards. It has a few holes in it now. Just like sticking your finger through a piece of soft cheese.... |
Are the holes in your gong 30 cal or is there a "pellet" or "insert" inside the bullet that does the armor piercing? ETA: I have ordered a case of the LC M2. I am really looking forward to shooting my Garand. |
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Quoted: Are the holes in your gong 30 cal They were at least .30 cal holes, did not pay too much attention. but now that you mention it they actually seemed bigger than .30 and I know I make them ...hmmm, will have to mic that next time I am out. I have hit that old plate with .308 173FMJ Lake City Match before and seen a dent but no holes, so I assumed it was the armor piercing nature of this "magnetic" M2 that caused it to punch right through this time. It literally was like you stuck your index finger through a hunk of cheese. |
Depends on which rounds you get. The government loaded both guilding metal and steel jacketed bullets in the rounds. It all depended on which metal was cheaper at the time. I have a bunch of the steel jacketed rounds but also have a bunch of regular guilding metal (copper) jacketed M2. One way to tell if it's AP: pull a bullet and look at the cannular. If it is serrated, it is ball. If it is smooth, it is AP. AP will be longer as well. When you go to the range, take some copper jacketed rounds for them to check and then shoot the steel jacket when they're not looking. That's what I did. Only problem will be sparking downrange depending on the trap they use. It shouldn't tear up the backstop any more than guilding metal jacketed rounds. The steel is pretty soft. |
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