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Posted: 8/10/2004 7:41:20 PM EDT
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Can you shoot .308 Nato in one? I've done a little looking and it sounds like the 5.56/.223 argument. I have a Garnd coming and I need ammo. Where can I get cheap Garand ammo, not Korean? |
Dang! I'd just finished writing this the first time when it was moved and lost the post lol 7.62mmX63mm=30-06 7.62mmX51mm=.308 I used to see spacers for sale in SGN that made up for the 12mm in case length between a 30-06 and .308 that were SUPPOSED to let you fire .308 in a 30-06 but I have NO idea if they worked or were safe (?) FWIW, 20 yrs ago when I was at FT Hood guys would pocket range .308 tracers to shoot out of a friends old Moisin (7.62mmX54mm) on week-ends but I wouldn't advise ANYONE to try THAT stunt! (Young guys are SOO stupid!lol) |
Same size bullet, different brass(shorter) similar proformance. I load a 147 gr. boatail (.308)in both rounds. Where is your M1 coming from? 
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I traded a pistol for it the EE. I didnt know enough to even ask what it was chambered for.  I'll let you know in a few days when I get the rifle. The pistol came to me in a roundabout way thru a purchase and a trade so I didnt have a lot of cash in it. Maybe 3-4 hundred. Its a Springfield Garand 50s issue. No idea on TE or crown wear. I asked and he didnt know so I took a gamble. I feel good about the deal though and I wanted a Garand bad. |
| FWIW it is likely chambered in 30-06. Read up alot on battlerifles.com . I have shot the korean extensively with no problems. The Korean KA on clips is corrosive, clean accordingly. The Korean PS is non corrosive but had a couple bad lots, all in the 150s ranges, avoid these. Other than that it all shoots good. 30-06 hunting ammo is NOT ok to use in a garand. Those loadings may damage the op rod. Stick with mil spec and it will be fine. The Garand can be converted to .308 by having a competent smith change the barrel. That is all thats required but it is not a home tinker job as chamber reaming and headspacing are required. My plan is to leave my garand in 06 until the barrel wears out, or milsurp is not available. At that point I'll convert to .308 and keep on shooting. |
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Thanks for the info guys. I want to keep the rifle as original as possible. 06 is fine with me. I dont care if its really accurate I just want a shooter. I shot one once and loved it. CHING! What a cool sound. Tell me about the thumb thingy. What is Garand thumb and how do I avoid it? |
| Are you talking about a real M1 Garand surplus from WWII or Korea? In which case, they only come chambered in 30-06. If you are talking about Springfield's new version of Garand chambered in both 30-06 and 308, then you can get surplus NATO ammo just about anywhere. It might be economical for you if you open your phone book and look for the nearest gun dealers. Chances are they have a ton of NATO surplus in stock. You can also buy them online such as www.cheaperthandirt.com, but shipping will get you. |
actually, you're wrong. The US Navy converted many M1 rifles to 7.62 Nato.... |
| CP, Garand Thumb is the condition where the shooter does not either keep the bole from running forward or does not pull their thumb out of the way fast enough to avoid the bolt shutting on it. This condition is painful from what I hear ( I have not experinced it), and I am trying desprately not to experince it! |
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7.62 nato and .308 win are not the same round.....pretty dang close, but not the same. They are so close infact that firearms chambered in .308 win can handle 7.62 nato quite well, but visa-versa you are playing with fire and could very well get burned. Slam fire, case rupture and over pressure are just a few catchy phrases you should aquaint your self with if you choose that route. The same is true, to a lesser extent, for .223 rem and 5.56 nato., not the same round. Look at the case specs and compare. I have shot many rounds of .223 thru several different ARs, but I dont have balls enuff to run .308win thru my M1A, I like the looks and function of it to well to alter either with the wrong ammo. Thats the way I see it, "G". |
| There's also a "thumb saver" device for sale through SHotgun News. That locks the bolt back after the rounds are expended, and doesn't close on a new clip until you want it to. As far as the 30-06 to 308 adapter, I would shy away from it. The instructions asay to locktite it in the chamber to prevent if from popping out with an extracted case, yet trying to remove it is damn near impossible. The broken case removers slip before they can get enough pressure on it, and I trashed a barrel trying to get it out (never did manage to remove it). |
Getting a finger/thumb caught by the bolt is usually done while cleaning or trying to close the bolt without loading the rifle. The bolt can get caught on the follower, and all it takes is a "tickle" of the follower, and the bolt will slam home. If the op rod catch is engaged, it takes a stronger poke to dislodge the bolt. Properly done, when releasing the bolt with the right thumb, the oprod handle is blucked with the back edge of your hand. It is easier for someone to show you than it is to post in writing. I have closed the bolt hundreds of times, not bit yet. If you do get "M1 Thumb", your thumbnail will turn black and take 6 or 8 months to grow out. Gives you a daily reminder during that period to be quicker next time. When loading, it is not a problem. The bolt won't close as long as you hold pressure on the top round. Even when released, the first round usually needs a nudge on the oprod to get it to go.
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