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Posted: 11/23/2016 1:46:54 AM EDT
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Has anyone ever thought of doing this?
Make something similar to a 30 cal can but that obviously comes apart for cleaning. I know it will get dirty quick but it's not like I'll sit around and shoot a 100 rounds at a time. Just looking for imput. Not looking for practical, this would be just for fun. |
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Quoted: Hmmm, would it be considered a silencer, since Muzzle Loaders are not considered firearms? They make airgun silencers that are not NFA items, don't they? Threading an octagonal barrel seems like it would be cause for major dick pain. Blacl Powder guns have been show with cans. Never seen it done with a muzzle loader but seen it done with black powder cartridges. |
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Air rifles can have a suppressor without paperwork because they do not meet the definition of a firearm and use compressed air instead of an explosive.
The GCA defines the term “firearm” as: (A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or Page 2 receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or (D) any destructive device. I suspect ATF would require paper on a black powder rifle despite the fact that the rifle itself is not considered a firearm. I come to this conclusion as I believe you have to paper a suppressor for a pre-1899 firearms as well. I could be wrong, but don't have the $$$ to test the theory in court. |
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Here's a guy that's done it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zMq4iVM96G0 |
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It doesn't matter if it is going on a firearm, BATFE still considers it easily convertible and therefore deems it under the purvue of the NFA as a silencer.
The same is true for silencers used on pellet guns and paintball guns. Some manufacturers like Gamo have obviously gotten approval, but that doesn't mean anyone can do it. it's even covered in the ATF FAQs here |
| I've been playing around with this idea for a few years. PA has a flintlock only deer season. I have a long rifle with a mediocre stock. I want to buy a nice curly maple stock for my rifle, then cut down my old stock for a flintlock pistol ... a non-NFA SBR. Then thread the pistol barrel for a suppressor (NFA registered suppressor, as it could be used on a regulated firearm). It would make a nice handy and quiet flintlock. However, I have a dozen or so other projects in line ahead of it. |
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Hmmm, would it be considered a silencer, since Muzzle Loaders are not considered firearms? They make airgun silencers that are not NFA items, don't they? Threading an octagonal barrel seems like it would be cause for major dick pain. You do realize that not all of them have octagon barrels. |
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I've been wondering about this since the ban against hunting with silencers in NH was repealed. Subscribing to this thread.
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The solution here is to shoot full size lead boolits. Quoted:
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The concern I foresee is the plastic sabot casing or cloth patch getting lodged within the suppressor, and possibly partially or full blocking one of the baffle bores. The solution here is to shoot full size lead boolits. That's my concern too. My muzzleloader likes sabot rounds. |
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The concern I foresee is the plastic sabot casing or cloth patch getting lodged within the suppressor, and possibly partially or full blocking one of the baffle bores. Shooting Mini or Maxi Balls will solve that problem. If you wanted to shoot sabots, you could do something along the lines of Salvo with guide rods. ETA: Forgot of the complications of the bullet spinning. Might needs something more akin to a barrel extension with large slotted ports feeding into the baffles. |
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