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Anyone have a source for 1.245" diameter cones? I am thinking I could improve my suppressor performance by using 60 degree cones versus spacers as I have now. The place I originally purchased from exited the business as one may imagine. Form 1 already approved in July!
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| Alternatively, I would consider trying to form my aluminum milled baffles/cups but I don't want to ruin them... Anyone have experience with this? |
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I'm almost done with my can. Just got it back from being cerakoated. I chose their hi-temp Tactical Gray color. Now I have a few questions.
I am using a DM titanium 7.5" long 1.5" O.D. tube with 1.375" I.D. DM titanium griffen adapter DM titanium stepped coned end cap I also have a 4" chunk of the DM titanium spacer material on hand. My plan was to build a suppressor for shooting .308 out of a ar10, .308 bolt action, 8.5" 300blk ar15, and a 5.56 ar15. I am planning on buying the Griffen 2 chamber brake for the 7.62 guns and the flash comp for the 5.56 guns. I read a lot of these threads already and my question is on baffles. I will be using titanium cones from zmachineworks in their 1.372" diameter. From what I have read, it looks like I will need about a 2.4" spacer for my blast chamber. The cones have a .67" skirt. Without having the can in front of me to measure the endcaps and inner tube length, it looks like I will be able to only fit 6 cones in the can and I will have to find a way to get rid of as much as .2" of excess play inside. Should I be using something else for the first blast baffle? Is this thing going to hold up to anything the guns I have listed will send out? Shoild I go to a minimalist brake so I can add an extra baffle? Should I do the radial shaped or the normal cone shaped baffles from zmachine? |
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| So I am new to this thread but I’ve read for a few hours now for knowlege... I know what I’m wanting to do might be received poorly by y’all but I really want to replicate the knights armament NT4 QDSS Suppressor. I have already used CAD programs and designed a model that would work but need some insight on constructing the blast baffles out of stainless rather than inconel like in the actual can. This will have to be a welded can so I need to make it out of baffles that will have some decent longevity on a 10.5” SBR. Thanks and I’m looking forward to sharing my progress on this thread in the future. |
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Originally Posted By ponykilr: SDTA is a good source Pony, good for trying to help, but not only was that post from 7yrs ago, the user hasn't logged on for 3yrs. Good laugh, though  And, yes, SDTA has some parts. Make sure to check the concentricity on the threading of whatever parts you do buy. |
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Originally Posted By User55645: Pony, good for trying to help, but not only was that post from 7yrs ago, the user hasn't logged on for 3yrs. Good laugh, though And, yes, SDTA has some parts. Make sure to check the concentricity on the threading of whatever parts you do buy.  |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: The whole thing is sad. I built one suppressor and got the stamp, wanted to do more, then everyone got scared of the ATF and supplies vanished.  |
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Originally Posted By November5: There's still a few suppliers out there. Originally Posted By November5: Originally Posted By Zhukov: The whole thing is sad. I built one suppressor and got the stamp, wanted to do more, then everyone got scared of the ATF and supplies vanished. ATF is also, still out there 
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| I'm in the same position. I have an approved Form 1 for a .308 can of 8.6" in length... and don't even know where to get started with building it. |
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Originally Posted By disco_jon75: I'm in the same position. I have an approved Form 1 for a .308 can of 8.6" in length... and don't even know where to get started with building it. https://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130461 |
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Originally Posted By disco_jon75: I'm in the same position. I have an approved Form 1 for a .308 can of 8.6" in length... and don't even know where to get started with building it. I've got 2 form 1's hanging out, I need to do something with
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Originally Posted By bondo: https://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130461 |
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Originally Posted By disco_jon75: I'm in the same position. I have an approved Form 1 for a .308 can of 8.6" in length... and don't even know where to get started with building it. I believe you have 3 year to get a refund for items not built. Did this myself several years ago. At this point with all the options out there not worth messing with building. |
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Originally Posted By November5: Check Form1.org, there's still a few active vendors. Not as many as there used to be unfortunately. Originally Posted By November5: Check Form1.org, there's still a few active vendors. Not as many as there used to be unfortunately. Listen to Josh. Form1.org is the place to find the information you seek. Originally Posted By Wmcray: At this point with all the options out there not worth messing with building. I'm not sure how you can justify this. Do you mean only those w/o the knowledge and tools, and are relying on "solvent trap parts/kits"? I can have a new, all titanium, centerfire suppressor made in under a week, for ~$200. And, now that form1's will be free, I can justify making replacement parts as quick as forms are processing. |
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Originally Posted By Dominion21: Are any of these suppliers still around in August 2026? Off the top of my head. There are more selling aluminum end caps and thread adapters on ebay and amazon https://sdtacticalarms.com/barrel-shrouds/ https://sdtacticalarms.com/mounts-and-adapters/ https://www.subzerosupply.com/ https://greymarketresearch.net/all-products/tools-and-toobs/ https://telloutfitters.com/ |
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Originally Posted By NWRed: Off the top of my head. There are more selling aluminum end caps and thread adapters on ebay and amazon https://sdtacticalarms.com/barrel-shrouds/ https://sdtacticalarms.com/mounts-and-adapters/ https://www.subzerosupply.com/ https://greymarketresearch.net/all-products/tools-and-toobs/ https://telloutfitters.com/ Don't forget https://xrtengineered.com/shop/ |
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Originally Posted By NWRed: Off the top of my head. There are more selling aluminum end caps and thread adapters on ebay and amazon https://sdtacticalarms.com/barrel-shrouds/ https://sdtacticalarms.com/mounts-and-adapters/ https://www.subzerosupply.com/ https://greymarketresearch.net/all-products/tools-and-toobs/ https://telloutfitters.com/ They use a threaded insert in their tubes that appears to have been glued in. It lasted 3 shots. I'm very lucky I found the rest of it down range. ETA: FWIW, sub zero responded quickly and is sending me a replacement. They say a new guy over-bored some tubes then welded in the inserts. They said it only happened with 5.5x1.625 tubes and that they caught most of them before they got out to the public. ETA 2: I just checked a 6.5" tube that I bought from them but haven't finished. If that has a welded or glued insert, they did a really good job blending it. It looks solid to me. I think that their story about the new guy is probably the truth. ETA 3: just adding this to be fair to SZ since I was really pissed off when I initially posted. SZ has already sent me a tracking number for a new tube engraved with my info. I can say without doubt that they have excellent CS. Assuming that the new tube is one piece like it should be, I am happy with the resolution. Attached File |
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SDTAC has a few things for those of us that built D-tube suppressors: 1) They sell muzzle brakes that has the thread pattern used with their mounts. I almost ordered some.  2) The reason I didn't is because they also sell mount adapters that convert the internal D-cell thread (1.4375x20) to Plan B:  That allows me to use my old can with the new Plan B muzzle devices. I wouldn't mind building another can as I still have the press to convert freeze plugs into cones, but it looks like that ship has sailed... |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: SDTAC has a few things for those of us that built D-tube suppressors: 1) They sell muzzle brakes that has the thread pattern used with their mounts. I almost ordered some. https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-bfxtezjgif/images/stencil/640w/products/116/404/micro_brake__68595.1738890504.png?c=1 2) The reason I didn't is because they also sell mount adapters that convert the internal D-cell thread (1.4375x20) to Plan B: https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-bfxtezjgif/images/stencil/640w/products/81/511/thumbnail_883CC738-D176-41A6-8CC9-0E9C6C33FBFB__33040.1758821996.png?c=1 That allows me to use my old can with the new Plan B muzzle devices. I wouldn't mind building another can as I still have the press to convert freeze plugs into cones, but it looks like that ship has sailed... @Zhukov Why do you say that ship has sailed? |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: It just seems like there's hardly anything to find anymore. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough... If you are looking for forming dies, I have heard good reports on this place (all the way at the bottom of the page) https://greymarketresearch.net/all-products/tools-and-toobs/ |
| I would think with the favorable court rulings and the general direction things seem to be heading, that manufacturers might start picking up on the production of tubes, undrilled baffles, etc.. Salad days coming again? |
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Everyone please read this carefully. Eric802 is correct. - DK-Prof, 1/27/15
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Originally Posted By Eric802: I would think with the favorable court rulings and the general direction things seem to be heading, that manufacturers might start picking up on the production of tubes, undrilled baffles, etc.. Salad days coming again? I can only imagine |
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Originally Posted By Eric802: I would think with the favorable court rulings and the general direction things seem to be heading, that manufacturers might start picking up on the production of tubes, undrilled baffles, etc.. Salad days coming again? |
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