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5/22/2016 7:30:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bjgunner:
A few form 1 cans completed

12ga
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Micro 22 (3.5" long)
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Compact 22 for heavy use (5" long)
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Compact 223 with muzzle brake mount (5" long)
(Before cerakote)

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50 whisper
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20 gauge integral
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410 integral
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223 integral MVP
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This is awesome. The sg cans are really cool, has anyone else done one?
7/10/2016 3:23:52 PM EDT
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Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!
7/10/2016 3:29:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!
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Shouldn't be an issue.
7/10/2016 3:35:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:

Shouldn't be an issue.
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!

Shouldn't be an issue.

Sweet.
ETA: Even if I listed "inch" as the unit of measure?
7/10/2016 5:09:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:

Sweet.
ETA: Even if I listed "inch" as the unit of measure?
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!

Shouldn't be an issue.

Sweet.
ETA: Even if I listed "inch" as the unit of measure?

Building a battleship?
Squire
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
7/10/2016 5:19:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:

Sweet.
ETA: Even if I listed "inch" as the unit of measure?
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!

Shouldn't be an issue.

Sweet.
ETA: Even if I listed "inch" as the unit of measure?

All bets are off if that's the case.

It doesn't show up on the form, but I've always assumed the ATF could see it.

Does a suppressor over .5" bore count as a DD?
7/10/2016 5:57:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Building a battleship?
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!

Shouldn't be an issue.

Sweet.
ETA: Even if I listed "inch" as the unit of measure?

Building a battleship?

ALL LAWFUL PURPOSES!
7/10/2016 6:09:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:

ALL LAWFUL PURPOSES!
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!

Shouldn't be an issue.

Sweet.
ETA: Even if I listed "inch" as the unit of measure?

Building a battleship?

ALL LAWFUL PURPOSES!

Touche good sir.
Squire
CVMA Chapter 24-2
"Our Costa, who art in Wyoming, thy beard come, thy will be done on the range as it is on the internet" ozzie839
7/11/2016 12:21:20 AM EDT
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My idea is to simply re-submit a exact same stamp tomorrow but fix the mistakes. If the first one is denied, I'll be good with the 2nd. If the 1st is approved, then the 2nd would be denied cause it has the same serial no.
7/11/2016 12:42:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:

My idea is to simply re-submit a exact same stamp tomorrow but fix the mistakes. If the first one is denied, I'll be good with the 2nd. If the 1st is approved, then the 2nd would be denied cause it has the same serial no.
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If I were you, I wouldn't duplicate serial numbers.  It will only cause confusion about your intent and could cause conflicts if the first form is approved and then they turn down the other.  Submit the second with a unique number and keep both if both are approved or request the second be cancelled and refunded if the first submission is approved.
7/11/2016 8:46:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wangstang:

If I were you, I wouldn't duplicate serial numbers.  It will only cause confusion about your intent and could cause conflicts if the first form is approved and then they turn down the other.  Submit the second with a unique number and keep both if both are approved or request the second be cancelled and refunded if the first submission is approved.
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Originally Posted By Wangstang:
Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:

My idea is to simply re-submit a exact same stamp tomorrow but fix the mistakes. If the first one is denied, I'll be good with the 2nd. If the 1st is approved, then the 2nd would be denied cause it has the same serial no.

If I were you, I wouldn't duplicate serial numbers.  It will only cause confusion about your intent and could cause conflicts if the first form is approved and then they turn down the other.  Submit the second with a unique number and keep both if both are approved or request the second be cancelled and refunded if the first submission is approved.

Good point. I'll change the serial slightly.

EDIT: Submitted the back-up stamp. I changed the serial. If the first one is approved, I'll be surprised, but happy. If the 2nd one is approved too, I may ask for a refund, or I might just run with it. I'll probably be happy I got an extra stamp anyways.

Gotta pick up my MPX from my dealer once they give me a call, either today or tomorrow. Fedex said it got delivered today. That will be my final form 1 . Probably not any form 4s either, unless I come across a screaming deal.

Time to wait.
8/6/2016 1:27:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Seanquigley][Edited] [#12]
Got to test fire my 9mm can today. I had my TiRant-9 to compare it to, I shot both without ear pro on my 9mm SBR, I couldn't tell a difference in sound.




No gas to face issues either.






There is also still one freeze plug in the can, the first baffle, it is hard to knock out, so I left it in the tube.






























 
9/28/2016 10:18:05 AM EDT
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I'd soak it in sea foam bet it will come right out in a day or so ?
It seems kind of a pathetic existence to poke and poke until one finds a topic that annoys other people
10/17/2016 9:14:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seanquigley:
Got to test fire my 9mm can today. I had my TiRant-9 to compare it to, I shot both without ear pro on my 9mm SBR, I couldn't tell a difference in sound.
No gas to face issues either.


There is also still one freeze plug in the can, the first baffle, it is hard to knock out, so I left it in the tube.


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I'm contemplating a 9mm can really similar to yours.

Are those baffles made from the JMPF style 1.135 inch "cups"?
10/17/2016 9:37:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Seanquigley][Edited] [#15]
Yes, they are the D size, I got from Amazon.
 



It looks like Amazon doesn't sell them anymore. But there are some on eBay under solvent trap
10/26/2016 9:16:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!
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Lol, It got approved.  I got a tube and end caps. Now time for some baffles.
11/5/2016 5:47:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:



Lol, It got approved.  I got a tube and end caps. Now time for some baffles.
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:

Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!



Lol, It got approved.  I got a tube and end caps. Now time for some baffles.

So when I get the tube engraved, I should put "Caliber: 46" on the can?
11/6/2016 8:53:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:

So when I get the tube engraved, I should put "Caliber: 46" on the can?
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Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:

Originally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
Just realized that i put 45 instead of .45 on a can I submitted on 4/30. Dammit!

Lol, It got approved.  I got a tube and end caps. Now time for some baffles.

So when I get the tube engraved, I should put "Caliber: 46" on the can?

You typed 45 twice, and the. Your question says 46.

As an example, some of my F1s have 30 (no decimal) on the form, and I engraved Cal: .30

3/3/2017 1:01:11 PM EDT
[#19]
wow, what happened to this thread? no new replies since before election night

finally got two F1s back from mid june last week.


1-30 cal Ti SDTA build with a unspaced stack of SS Fps
2- haven't decided yet





Runs like a champ with the WAR receiver and still has some pig blood on it from the past weekend
4/16/2017 8:27:46 AM EDT
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I'm assuming Blackout?  What are the specs?  Like the looks of that.  I'm thinking of building one this summer, along with the 3 F1 approvals.
4/24/2017 11:16:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jasonprox700:
I'm assuming Blackout?  What are the specs?  Like the looks of that.  I'm thinking of building one this summer, along with the 3 F1 approvals.
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Daniel defense 10.3" 556.

It has the sdta brake on it that takes most of the wear and tear off of the blast baffle.

No noticeable erosion to the blast baffle yet after around 500 rounds with a a few mag dumps
4/25/2017 11:38:13 AM EDT
[#22]
I got 2 forms that should be coming back soon. Are there still people selling tubes? Or am I SOL without a lathe?
4/25/2017 1:14:42 PM EDT
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4/27/2017 5:48:38 PM EDT
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any thoughts on if the DM titanium 7" 1.5"od can for use on a 7.5" sbr (5.56) ?

I'd like to use it on mine, but I'm not sure of strength of the can for that short of a barrel?
5/14/2017 11:57:48 PM EDT
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Looking at pictures of the salvo 12 it seems like a simple enough design to copy and plug into a cnc machine. Has anyone attempted to do something similar?
I got an extra form I'm still deciding what to do with. It would be pretty cool to suppress some of my scatter guns.
2/26/2018 9:13:56 AM EDT
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I haven't looked into this in over a year but its anybody out there selling tubes, etc these days?  Last I looked it was done with freeze plugs.  Is that still the way or is there something better now?
2/26/2018 12:00:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bcmrofl:
I haven't looked into this in over a year but its anybody out there selling tubes, etc these days?  Last I looked it was done with freeze plugs.  Is that still the way or is there something better now?
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Check out form1 suppressor board.

You have to sign up in order to read posts, etc.

Check out rusty’s cones. .....
4/16/2018 6:23:41 AM EDT
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Apogee Ti tube, DM Ti YHM adapter, ZM Ti Radial cones clipped, Hawk Ti endcap.

Got to shoot it yesterday.  the sound reduction is pretty much on par with my YHM LT, but with much more first round pop on my 10.5" 5.56SBR .
On the 9mm carbine, no difference.





side by side with a YHM LT 7.62Ti
9/8/2018 10:27:18 PM EDT
[#29]
What are some good sites to buy the parts for a fully Ti 9mm short build?
10/14/2018 2:17:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheSadClown:
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Bump for info. I too am interested in this
6/26/2019 2:55:09 PM EDT
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6/26/2019 3:07:50 PM EDT
[#32]
Fwiw there's a pretty active Facebook group on form 1 stuff.
I'm sitting on a approved form 1. But I'd rather wait until I can build something really cool out with it.
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6/26/2019 3:08:22 PM EDT
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'86-'90
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6/26/2019 9:43:57 PM EDT
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"Everything popular is wrong."

-Oscar Wilde
8/19/2019 5:07:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MrTinkles][Edited] [#35]
What are the chances of getting OP to re-up his photos? Trying to build my first can and I'd love to get a good start/finish to get me going

ETA nevermind he hasn't posted since 2014
My hand is cramped up after all the time I spent on NorCal's crotch - XCRmonger
8/24/2019 12:16:43 PM EDT
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***** WTB AR57 upper // 12.5" or 16" barrel // send me a PM! ******

"Never give up your gun. Fight until someone is dead. If it is you, make that fucker work for it." -QP031

Embrace the suck.
8/24/2019 12:37:30 PM EDT
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8/24/2019 2:10:07 PM EDT
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***** WTB AR57 upper // 12.5" or 16" barrel // send me a PM! ******

"Never give up your gun. Fight until someone is dead. If it is you, make that fucker work for it." -QP031

Embrace the suck.
8/24/2019 4:19:55 PM EDT
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9/24/2019 1:48:34 PM EDT
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DM lathe bores the ID of his premium tubes. Select tubes are mill finished so the ID is to tubing spec, probably nominal +/- 0.002”. Since it is a kit, all the cones should slide in but likely a slightly looser fit than is possible with a bored tube.

You will want to clip the cones as well as drill to get the quietest result. This can be a single scoop cut in the cone tip side wall, a half step cut with a dermal, or a double hybrid clip. Depends on the cones and your skills/design. If they ship with his pig nose baffles those might be already double side ported so that a big enough center drill opening creates the clips.
[quote]Originally Posted By Truman_Sparks:
That's really brilliant. Shove some Chinese made, internet-connected mechanical device up your ass. No problem.
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9/24/2019 6:50:14 PM EDT
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9/28/2019 9:16:43 PM EDT
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9/29/2019 5:11:58 PM EDT
[#46]
That anodizing turned out nice.  What’s the spacing on your cone skirts?

How is the first round pop?  It seems big blast chambers on rimfire contribute to first round pop.  If that’s the case, you could split that BC spacer into two, and reduce the blast chamber and space the last cone off the front cap.  And this would still allow for returning to the original configuration.
[quote]Originally Posted By Truman_Sparks:
That's really brilliant. Shove some Chinese made, internet-connected mechanical device up your ass. No problem.
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9/30/2019 12:47:37 AM EDT
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Interested in how that half clip would for a 30 cal can. Looks like something that could easily be cut with a hand file after drilling.
9/30/2019 12:21:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KalmanPhilter:
That anodizing turned out nice.  What’s the spacing on your cone skirts?

How is the first round pop?  It seems big blast chambers on rimfire contribute to first round pop.  If that’s the case, you could split that BC spacer into two, and reduce the blast chamber and space the last cone off the front cap.  And this would still allow for returning to the original configuration.
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Originally Posted By KalmanPhilter:
That anodizing turned out nice.  What’s the spacing on your cone skirts?

How is the first round pop?  It seems big blast chambers on rimfire contribute to first round pop.  If that’s the case, you could split that BC spacer into two, and reduce the blast chamber and space the last cone off the front cap.  And this would still allow for returning to the original configuration.
Hard to say, I've only touched off a couple rounds in the back yard, and with the house to reflect off of it's loud either way, sounds similar to my .223 can in the same setting. The skirts are .5" except for the last baffle. There's roughly 1.125" from the muzzle to the tip of the first cone.

Originally Posted By Removed_californian:
Interested in how that half clip would for a 30 cal can. Looks like something that could easily be cut with a hand file after drilling.
I first saw them with Curtis Tactical cans. I think I need to put them back on the mill and cut the clip deeper, though.

10/16/2019 8:22:29 PM EDT
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10/17/2019 11:46:57 AM EDT
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How was the titanium to machine?  What kind of cutter do you use for that?
I don't know what will happen, or if anything will happen. But if something does, I'd rather be the guy with a gun than the guy without one.

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