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3/31/2017 4:11:51 PM EDT
I am looking to take part of a closet in my house to turn it into a hidden room that doubles as a panic/safe room. Gun, data backup and camera server storage along with other valuables. Has anyone done this?

I am mostly interested in opinions on existing wall reinforcement (two walls are exterior, ones the back of another closet and I will add a wall which is where the door will be), door options for concealment and fire/burglary proofing.
3/31/2017 4:46:50 PM EDT
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Must be a hell of a closet.  :)

Panic room above ground in standard wood frame residential construction sounds like a challenge, as does fire protection.  Subbed to see what folks say.
3/31/2017 6:07:03 PM EDT
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Must be a hell of a closet.  :)

Panic room above ground in standard wood frame residential construction sounds like a challenge, as does fire protection.  Subbed to see what folks say.
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Yeah that's the problem. Thinking three layers of drywall and a layer of plywood for strength. Obviously fire rating is only a number and you don't keep everything in one spot but I'd love to have a reasonable shot at some fire resistance.
3/31/2017 6:48:17 PM EDT
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Yeah that's the problem. Thinking three layers of drywall and a layer of plywood for strength. Obviously fire rating is only a number and you don't keep everything in one spot but I'd love to have a reasonable shot at some fire resistance.
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How old is the house?  And what is beneath the room?  Slab?  First floor?  Basement?  Best bet is older construction on a slab.  Fire burns up...and while what's above can collapse into the room, the room can't collapse into the slab.  

I was a FF for a dozen years and there is not much you can do, at least practically, to protect a single room if the house is fully involved.   Newer construction is not your friend in a fire.  Those houses lose structural integrity fast given the engineered trusses and joists used.  The BTUs in something like a couch or a mattress is insane and when a room in your house reaches flashover temp, it's on.  That room is then a boiling cauldron of death and it will roll out.

The best thing you can do for fire protection is early occupant warning, good documentation of what you own, and a decent insurance policy.  I also have about half a dozen fire extinguishers in my house so I can knock down something fast if I am there at or shortly after ignition, but that is a big if.  Worth the investment though, because you would probably be shocked how fast a small fire can develop into a fully involved room.

The good news is that the chance of significant house fire for a specific person is quite remote.  I suggest focusing more on physical security.
3/31/2017 7:23:46 PM EDT
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If you're on a slab I would just have a mason build some walls out of CMU and pour a concrete ceiling.

I'm assuming this will be a relatively small space so it shouldn't be a monumental task.

The weakest point is going to be the entry, for both fire and smoke.

Smoke will damage stuff just like fire, so you should be thinking about spending a good portion on the entry.

If CMU isn't an option I would go metal studs with 1" shaft liner and two layers of 5/8 GWB on the outside. Plywood on the inside for hanging stuff. Metal fire resistance rated door and a metal door buck.
3/31/2017 8:44:50 PM EDT
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If you find a Fema storm shelter manual there is some ideas on reinforcing walls.

I'd recommend a combo of wood and metal to make it "complex" to cut and sturdy. I've heard of filling wall cavities with river stone to make them tough to get though.
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