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Posted: 4/10/2009 11:49:20 AM EDT
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I had to modify my old Gardall safe (it's not a gun safe) to handle the AR's. It's about 40 inches tall, I modded the interior to hold 3 of my 4 AR's.
Humidy is running at 40% with a new dessicant inside. Is 40% too high? Can't get a rod in, no way to get cord out.... |
Going by memory silica gel dessicant will only lower humidity to 30 or 40%- forget which. That being said I use a Golden/Dri Rod in the safe as well, however, I am dubious as to its effectiveness at reducing moisture. It may a small bit, but I think it prevents cold/cool safe contents coming out into a warm house and having condensation forming- like on the frosty beer mug your enjoying. I like the bulk silica gel from sorbent systems- you can get the color indicating kind and fill an old dress sock. When it turns from blue to pink- just recharge it in the oven. If you can also run a dehumidifier in the room. I use a simple GE model with an electronic humidity level displayed on the top. If not, maybe some weather stripping to seal out the outside moisture to ease the job of the silica gel. For years I had rifles stored without a real safe, and without dessicant. Once every year or two they received a light coat of Breakfree CLP (Still do) and I have never, ever seen anything remotely resembling rust. |
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Midway; 750 gram rechargeable desiccant in a perforated aluminum container you recharge in your oven at 325 degrees; $29.95. Stick one or two in your safe and recharge them when the desiccant changes color from blue to pink. And coat you guns with a thin film of G96; Break Free is very good as well, but after using it for 45 years or so without a drop of rust or corrosion on any of my guns I prefer G96. |
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Going by memory silica gel dessicant will only lower humidity to 30 or 40%- forget which. That being said I use a Golden/Dri Rod in the safe as well, however, I am dubious as to its effectiveness at reducing moisture. It may a small bit, but I think it prevents cold/cool safe contents coming out into a warm house and having condensation forming- like on the frosty beer mug your enjoying.
I like the bulk silica gel from sorbent systems- you can get the color indicating kind and fill an old dress sock. When it turns from blue to pink- just recharge it in the oven. If you can also run a dehumidifier in the room. I use a simple GE model with an electronic humidity level displayed on the top. If not, maybe some weather stripping to seal out the outside moisture to ease the job of the silica gel. For years I had rifles stored without a real safe, and without dessicant. Once every year or two they received a light coat of Breakfree CLP (Still do) and I have never, ever seen anything remotely resembling rust. I believe that you're correct about the Golden Rod. It raises the temperature inside your safe and thereby raises the dew point so that condensation is unlikely to occur. But I don't believe that it reduces the humidity at all. |
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Quoted: http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=623716 And coat you guns with a thin film of G96; Break Free is very good as well, but after using it for 45 years or so without a drop of rust or corrosion on any of my guns I prefer G96. OK- that really piques my interest. I will research this G96. Tell me more about it. |
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I just bought one of these... how low should this take the humidity....
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Going by memory silica gel dessicant will only lower humidity to 30 or 40%- forget which. That being said I use a Golden/Dri Rod in the safe as well, however, I am dubious as to its effectiveness at reducing moisture. It may a small bit, but I think it prevents cold/cool safe contents coming out into a warm house and having condensation forming- like on the frosty beer mug your enjoying.
I like the bulk silica gel from sorbent systems- you can get the color indicating kind and fill an old dress sock. When it turns from blue to pink- just recharge it in the oven. If you can also run a dehumidifier in the room. I use a simple GE model with an electronic humidity level displayed on the top. If not, maybe some weather stripping to seal out the outside moisture to ease the job of the silica gel. For years I had rifles stored without a real safe, and without dessicant. Once every year or two they received a light coat of Breakfree CLP (Still do) and I have never, ever seen anything remotely resembling rust. |
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From my experience, just use the color indicating silica gel type product and wipe down as suggested with either of the two products mentioned above. You'll be good too go without actually having to get an accurate read on the exact humidity level. You have to understand people all have different thinking when it comes to things. I know a guy who keeps his stuff in a cheap stack-on case in a basement where the floor is damp half the year. He didn't crack the thing for a while and found some surface rust on some of his stuff- imagine that. BTW- his stuff includes a Colt SPII carbine from what must be very late sixties or very seventies, ohhh and then theres the SACO import HK91. That's not meant to get you alarmed, but ease your fears. If it's in a dry place you have nothing to worry about. |
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http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=623716 And coat you guns with a thin film of G96; Break Free is very good as well, but after using it for 45 years or so without a drop of rust or corrosion on any of my guns I prefer G96. OK- that really piques my interest. I will research this G96. Tell me more about it. There's not much to tell other than it's an aerosol spray that I've been using as both a protectant and cleaner for 45 years and none of my guns has ever shown the slightest bit of rust. G96 Gun Treatment works extremely well as a cleaner as well and the bores and chambers of all my guns look clean and shiny without even the slightest pitting. The manufacturer claims that it's a lubricant as well; but I use non aerosol Break Free for lubrication because I prefer something thicker as a lube.. Except for some cosmetic holster wear and the unavoidable cosmetic mechanical wear that's to be expected over time on rifles and pistols that have been in use for a long time; even my oldest guns look like they are almost NIB. The stuff works; it will clean and protect your guns if you use it according to directions. The manufacturer is G96 Products Company; Patterson New Jersey. ETA: I just found their link. http://www.g96.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=g96&Category_Code=Gun+Treatment |
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