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Posted: 12/31/2008 10:24:15 PM EDT
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In the Las Vegas Metro SWAT raid thread, some mention was made of the target's security doors.
Apparently (as it's not yet 100% clear from the shitty newspaper articles), a squared-away SWAT team like LVM had difficulty breaching this door (with breaching rounds, not [manual] breaching tools, IIRC). That gives me some measure of comfort regarding protection from assorted and sundry things like B&E, home invasion, etc. Not that those sorts of things are #1 and #2 on my threat radar by any means, but nonetheless.... If anyone would like to comment on their security doors, please feel free to do so. |
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There is an affordable vault door (About $1000) that can replace any door in your home. This company makes Browning's safe and Brownings vault door. I am not sure if it is on their web sight but they do provide swing and open direction options. Good people to deal with. |
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In the Las Vegas Metro SWAT raid thread, some mention was made of the target's security doors. Apparently (as it's not yet 100% clear from the shitty newspaper articles), a squared-away SWAT team like LVM had difficulty breaching this door (with breaching rounds, not [manual] breaching tools, IIRC). That gives me some measure of comfort regarding protection from assorted and sundry things like B&E, home invasion, etc. Not that those sorts of things are #1 and #2 on my threat radar by any means, but nonetheless.... If anyone would like to comment on their security doors, please feel free to do so. I don't know why that team chose to breach that door like they did, and since I wasn't in on the raid plan, I'm not going to throw stones after-the-fact. They may have been restricted in their choice of breaching methods or approach due to other factors (placement of children in the home, security cameras, compromised on approach...). There are many ways to skin that particular cat. I've seen much heavier security doors than that breached in a matter of seconds... but it took some equipment that gangbangers wouldn't have. Against any average group of thugs, you'd be pretty safe with a door like that on your home... hand tools (or rams) aren't going to suffice against doors like that, and I've never seen gangbanger home-invaders equipped with more than their feet. Those doors will stop the B-team. Against the A-team, at best you're going to slow them down a bit. |
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Yes. Like I said, if B&E and home invasion aren't even #1 and #2 on my threat radar, a wrong address dynamic entry (no-knock or otherwise) by a SWAT/narco unit is even farther down than a home invasion ass-rape by a gang of unicorns in the throes of meth withdrawal! <snip> Those doors will stop the B-team. Against the A-team, at best you're going to slow them down a bit.
But seriously, thanks for the perspective.
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The primary fail point for residential exterior doors isn't the door itself, it's the jamb. Door jamb armor can go a long ways towards beefing up residential doors, and is inexpensive compared to replacement security doors.
I started looking into this after being slowed down considerably by this type of setup doing forcible entry during a structure fire. Door jamb armor |
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The primary fail point for residential exterior doors isn't the door itself, it's the jamb. Door jamb armor can go a long ways towards beefing up residential doors, and is inexpensive compared to replacement security doors. I started looking into this after being slowed down considerably by this type of setup doing forcible entry during a structure fire. + Door jamb armor +1 door jams are the weakest link of a door |
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