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Posted: 12/29/2019 11:29:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Surely that will come with it, even if it's just a 'Fall 2020' or something like that. What I do wonder is what the NGSW-R contracts would do to civilian production. |
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Posted: 1/14/2020 1:38:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Well, nothing in the Sig 2020 catalog about it.
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Posted: 1/14/2020 3:14:32 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955:
Well, nothing in the Sig 2020 catalog about it. /- 365XL - 365XL RXZ - 365SAS - 320X5 Legion Don't be discouraged. |
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Posted: 1/14/2020 3:15:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Items released in 2019 that were NOT in 2019 product catalog: - 365XL - 365XL RXZ - 365SAS - 320X5 Legion Don't be discouraged. 
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Posted: 1/14/2020 3:25:45 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Items released in 2019 that were NOT in 2019 product catalog: - 365XL - 365XL RXZ - 365SAS - 320X5 Legion Don't be discouraged. I noticed there wasn't a standard X-Carry listed, just a TACOPS. I know the black and FDE are both being offered in the new R2 configuration. What I'd really like is RXP guns without an optic included.... 
As for the Spear I'll bet those efforts go towards the actual contract tender abs competition for the foreseeable future. We'll probably see them, but seems a bit early to me. |
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Posted: 1/14/2020 5:15:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: coregon]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
What I'd really like is RXP guns without an optic included.... Anything ending in "-R2" is cut for an optic, but doesnt include an optic. There are some exceptions to this (365XL-9-BXR3, for example - its cut, but doesnt have the nomenclature OR 320F-9-M17-MS is obviously cut for an optic, but also doesn't have the nomenclature). Anything ending in "-RXP" is cut for an optic AND includes the optic. There are some exceptions to this one, as well (365XL-9-BXR3-RXZ, has the "-RXZ" because its a RomeoZero). Pistols that are cut for an optic, but no optic are included: 320F-9-M17-MS 320F-9-M17 320XF-9-BXR3-R2 320XF-9-VTAC-R2 320X5-9-LEGION-R2 320CA-9-M18-MS 320XC-9-BXR3-R2 365XL-9-BXR3 365XL-9-BXR3-MS |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2020 7:13:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: These are in the price list. Anything ending in "-R2" is cut for an optic, but doesnt include an optic. There are some exceptions to this (365XL-9-BXR3, for example - its cut, but doesnt have the nomenclature OR 320F-9-M17-MS is obviously cut for an optic, but also doesn't have the nomenclature). Anything ending in "-RXP" is cut for an optic AND includes the optic. There are some exceptions to this one, as well (365XL-9-BXR3-RXZ, has the "-RXZ" because its a RomeoZero). Pistols that are cut for an optic, but no optic are included: 320F-9-M17-MS 320F-9-M17 320XF-9-BXR3-R2 320XF-9-VTAC-R2 320X5-9-LEGION-R2 320CA-9-M18-MS 320XC-9-BXR3-R2 365XL-9-BXR3 365XL-9-BXR3-MS coregon - would you happen to know when the P320 XCompact grip module in SMALL is going to be available? I can't find it for sale ANYWHERE... I just picked up one and I'd like to switch out to the "small" frame... |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 1:16:25 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By One_Mile_Up:
Totally off topic here, but... coregon - would you happen to know when the P320 XCompact grip module in SMALL is going to be available? I can't find it for sale ANYWHERE... I just picked up one and I'd like to switch out to the "small" frame... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By One_Mile_Up:
Originally Posted By coregon: These are in the price list. Anything ending in "-R2" is cut for an optic, but doesnt include an optic. There are some exceptions to this (365XL-9-BXR3, for example - its cut, but doesnt have the nomenclature OR 320F-9-M17-MS is obviously cut for an optic, but also doesn't have the nomenclature). Anything ending in "-RXP" is cut for an optic AND includes the optic. There are some exceptions to this one, as well (365XL-9-BXR3-RXZ, has the "-RXZ" because its a RomeoZero). Pistols that are cut for an optic, but no optic are included: 320F-9-M17-MS 320F-9-M17 320XF-9-BXR3-R2 320XF-9-VTAC-R2 320X5-9-LEGION-R2 320CA-9-M18-MS 320XC-9-BXR3-R2 365XL-9-BXR3 365XL-9-BXR3-MS coregon - would you happen to know when the P320 XCompact grip module in SMALL is going to be available? I can't find it for sale ANYWHERE... I just picked up one and I'd like to switch out to the "small" frame... |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2020 11:49:03 AM EDT
[#9]
OK, thanks for the quick answer fine sir.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2020 1:02:39 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon:
Soon, but I don't have a hard ETA. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon:
Originally Posted By One_Mile_Up:
Originally Posted By coregon: These are in the price list. Anything ending in "-R2" is cut for an optic, but doesnt include an optic. There are some exceptions to this (365XL-9-BXR3, for example - its cut, but doesnt have the nomenclature OR 320F-9-M17-MS is obviously cut for an optic, but also doesn't have the nomenclature). Anything ending in "-RXP" is cut for an optic AND includes the optic. There are some exceptions to this one, as well (365XL-9-BXR3-RXZ, has the "-RXZ" because its a RomeoZero). Pistols that are cut for an optic, but no optic are included: 320F-9-M17-MS 320F-9-M17 320XF-9-BXR3-R2 320XF-9-VTAC-R2 320X5-9-LEGION-R2 320CA-9-M18-MS 320XC-9-BXR3-R2 365XL-9-BXR3 365XL-9-BXR3-MS coregon - would you happen to know when the P320 XCompact grip module in SMALL is going to be available? I can't find it for sale ANYWHERE... I just picked up one and I'd like to switch out to the "small" frame... |
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Posted: 1/16/2020 3:15:30 PM EDT
[#11]
Just a few...days...left...!
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Posted: 1/21/2020 5:05:18 PM EDT
[#12]
Not much coverage so far, is there?
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Posted: 1/21/2020 6:21:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2020 6:29:20 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon:
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Posted: 1/21/2020 6:37:48 PM EDT
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Awwww yeah. There she is. Coregon, has there been much interest?
(For everyone else, I may or may not have been given some insider info by someone about this thing, but I don't know what I can say) |
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Posted: 1/21/2020 9:17:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak:
Damn, that is a solid looking setup. Able to give any word on if this is going to civilian sales too? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak:
Originally Posted By coregon:
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Posted: 1/21/2020 9:25:57 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955:
Awwww yeah. There she is. Coregon, has there been much interest? (For everyone else, I may or may not have been given some insider info by someone about this thing, but I don't know what I can say) I've been in meetings all day (and will tomorrow, too) and haven't heard any feedback from any of my guys working the floor. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 10:05:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BoogieMan2:
Way more interested in Large modules for the X compact. |
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Posted: 1/21/2020 10:12:35 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon:
Yes, it will. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon:
Originally Posted By Zerlak:
Originally Posted By coregon:
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Posted: 1/21/2020 10:20:29 PM EDT
[#20]
Minor thread hijack, but did you get any feedback on any new MCX options?
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Posted: 1/22/2020 12:39:59 AM EDT
[#21]
When can I get one in creed?
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Posted: 1/22/2020 1:34:57 AM EDT
[#22]
I am looking to dump my Scar 17, The Spear in 277 Fury seem incredibly interesting to me. I wonder how the 277 is going to be for reloading? It will be interesting to see what powders can replicate their pressure/velocity numbers. I wonder what what price range these are going to fall into.
I have to say, shot show this year appears to be kind of cool, no game changers, but a good bit of stuff that might be worth upgrading into. Despite their history of support/qc issues, I have to say, I am pretty impressed where Sig is today. I can absolutely say that out of the higher tier companies that do military contracts. I am most interested in the stuff the Sig is putting out. I would love to get a 14.5 inch SR25 upper in 6.5cm from knights but considering the contract mod for the K110 contract, we wont sniff those until 2023 most likely, The Scar 17 is stuck in 2008, the Mk20, is the heaviest gun in class by a full 1lb. Good job sig, keep up the good work |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/5/2020 12:18:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joglee]
[#23]
I hear the Sig was the most liked in the initial phases of the trial by those testing them.
Likely due to being the most production ready rifle and keeping a near parity to the AR design in controls. Sig actually built a gun for the end user. It's also the lightest entrant, though I hear it's ammo is 10% heavier than Textrons. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/6/2020 9:03:21 AM EDT
[#24]
 SIG SAUER MG-338 Machine Gun, MG-6.8, MCX-SPEAR Next Gen Weapons System - ShotShow2020 Milspec Monkey at the Sig booth. I wonder, how does Sig mitigate the recoil of such a powerful cartridge in the MCX platform? Their MG-68 and MG-338 have novel recoil mitigation technology. But the MCX is in many ways just the same gun we know and love today. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 12:26:54 AM EDT
[#25]
With my hand on a bible I swear when the Spear is open to order, I'm ordering 2. I also want a Spear Rattler, who wouldn't love a 7.62 with a 5.5" barrel. Also, it needs to take a RDIAS, just sayin'.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2020 8:35:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joglee]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyhKCHRhJbw
Milspec Monkey at the Sig booth. I wonder, how does Sig mitigate the recoil of such a powerful cartridge in the MCX platform? Their MG-68 and MG-338 have novel recoil mitigation technology. But the MCX is in many ways just the same gun we know and love today. I think the best thing Sig though is def that new case design. I have a feeling no matter what Sig will be a winner if that can be scaled to 5.56, 7.62, .338, etc. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 10:10:21 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee:
I've seen it shot. They've got something there because it was far tamer than I ever expected. I think the best thing Sig though is def that new case design. I have a feeling no matter what Sig will be a winner if that can be scaled to 5.56, 7.62, .338, etc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee:
Originally Posted By SpyHawk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyhKCHRhJbw
Milspec Monkey at the Sig booth. I wonder, how does Sig mitigate the recoil of such a powerful cartridge in the MCX platform? Their MG-68 and MG-338 have novel recoil mitigation technology. But the MCX is in many ways just the same gun we know and love today. I think the best thing Sig though is def that new case design. I have a feeling no matter what Sig will be a winner if that can be scaled to 5.56, 7.62, .338, etc. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 12:14:22 AM EDT
[#28]
Originally Posted By RePp:
When can I get one in creed? |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 12:53:38 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
8.6 Creedmoor Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By RePp:
When can I get one in creed? |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 8:15:14 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
8.6 Creedmoor |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/8/2020 9:28:17 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer:
Yes. This. Please. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By RePp:
When can I get one in creed? |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 12:51:24 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
Gross Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
8.6 Creedmoor Or who would want a +300gr expanding subsonic round that has 700 ft-lbs of muzzle energy and maintains 550 ft-lbs to 600 yards? Yeah that sounds real *gross* to me. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 2:53:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By tranzformer: I mean who would want a 12.5" barrel that sends a 155gr bullet at 2500 fps with 2,100 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. It outperforms an 18" .308 out to 300 yards. Or who would want a +300gr expanding subsonic round that has 700 ft-lbs of muzzle energy and maintains 550 ft-lbs to 600 yards? Yeah that sounds real *gross* to me. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/8/2020 9:36:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joglee]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: It scales to anything and is 20%+ lighter than what it’s replacing. Like other trials to replace the M16 that failed something always comes from it. Maybe this will be the one, which I'm rooting for Sig if that's the case. However I can easily see Sig getting the case design adopted and scaled to all current calibers in use. The civilian market I'm sure would love a 20% lighter cartridge. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/8/2020 9:37:23 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer: I mean who would want a 12.5" barrel that sends a 155gr bullet at 2500 fps with 2,100 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. It outperforms an 18" .308 out to 300 yards. Or who would want a +300gr expanding subsonic round that has 700 ft-lbs of muzzle energy and maintains 550 ft-lbs to 600 yards? Yeah that sounds real *gross* to me. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:21:13 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee:
Meh, I'd rather it just come in the .277 fury if we're going there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee:
Originally Posted By tranzformer: I mean who would want a 12.5" barrel that sends a 155gr bullet at 2500 fps with 2,100 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. It outperforms an 18" .308 out to 300 yards. Or who would want a +300gr expanding subsonic round that has 700 ft-lbs of muzzle energy and maintains 550 ft-lbs to 600 yards? Yeah that sounds real *gross* to me. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 11:21:38 AM EDT
[#37]
As long as there is an affordable 7.62 option at launch, I'll be happy.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 11:36:02 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee:
Meh, I'd rather it just come in the .277 fury if we're going there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee:
Originally Posted By tranzformer: I mean who would want a 12.5" barrel that sends a 155gr bullet at 2500 fps with 2,100 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. It outperforms an 18" .308 out to 300 yards. Or who would want a +300gr expanding subsonic round that has 700 ft-lbs of muzzle energy and maintains 550 ft-lbs to 600 yards? Yeah that sounds real *gross* to me. Looking online at .277 caliber projectiles, I see 85gr to 160gr. 160gr won't give you a subsonic round with much performance. The 8.6 Creedmoor will. If you want to hunt, you go with the supersonics round throwing 155gr at 2500 fps. If you want quiet subsonic rounds you go with a +300gr putting out 700 ft-lbs of energy. And this is all out of a 12.5' barrel. Not a 16"/18"/20". So very compact, lightweight and easy to carry in the woods when hunting. Yeah just depends what you want. The 8.6 Creedmoor has been optimised for short barrels. Just like .300 BLK. Just that the 8.6 Creedmoor is the bigger brother. That's why it's an interesting round. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2020 4:31:39 PM EDT
[#39]
@coregon
That stock on the Spear, please tell me it'll be offered separately for the MCX/MPX 
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USA
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Posted: 2/9/2020 7:41:53 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889:
@coregon That stock on the Spear, please tell me it'll be offered separately for the MCX/MPX |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 7:54:56 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer: I mean who would want a 12.5" barrel that sends a 155gr bullet at 2500 fps with 2,100 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. It outperforms an 18" .308 out to 300 yards. Or who would want a +300gr expanding subsonic round that has 700 ft-lbs of muzzle energy and maintains 550 ft-lbs to 600 yards? Yeah that sounds real *gross* to me. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2020 8:25:17 PM EDT
[#42]
It is a slightly chopped Vltor IMod with the battery compartments removed. Roll your own now.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2020 12:27:42 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By call_me_ski:
It is a slightly chopped Vltor IMod with the battery compartments removed. Roll your own now. If it can be used with any M4 stock, then that is hands down the perfect stock adapter for the MCX; ten times better than the overly long abortion they call a buffer tube knuckle. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2020 11:23:11 AM EDT
[#44]
The adapter itself looks like a normal M4 buffer tube with the sides flattened like you said.
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Posted: 2/10/2020 1:29:40 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
308 is even more gross. Stop liking gross things. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/20/2020 7:00:58 PM EDT
[#46]
So uh, is it ready yet? I like my Virtus and it needs a big brother. What's the chance Spear comes out in 2020?
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Posted: 2/20/2020 10:11:42 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril:
So uh, is it ready yet? I like my Virtus and it needs a big brother. What's the chance Spear comes out in 2020? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2020 11:31:47 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon:
Good Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon:
Originally Posted By GrAvril:
So uh, is it ready yet? I like my Virtus and it needs a big brother. What's the chance Spear comes out in 2020? |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:19:43 AM EDT
[#49]
Has Sig announced pricing yet?
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:47:10 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889:
Any comment on that stock and adapter assembly? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889:
Originally Posted By coregon:
Originally Posted By GrAvril:
So uh, is it ready yet? I like my Virtus and it needs a big brother. What's the chance Spear comes out in 2020? |
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