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Posted: 7/25/2013 12:58:40 PM EDT
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Hey guys/gals, I know sg553 are now being imported into the us. I also know they bring a high price tag. I have a few questions and would like any imput on this.
1- is this a limited time import or will one be able to buy a 553 in 2, 5, or 10 years? I guess i am asking is their large stock of these pistol or a Small amount for importers? 2- is there two versions to choose? One railed no Doppler, other no rail Doppler? Can you buy a rail and have it added to the Doppler pistol. Is there a swiss Doppler made for the railed version? 3- Are these 553 new or used? 4- is the 553 still being made today or are these old stock/military trade in. 5-do any 553 come with the metal lowers or are they the alumin milled lower like Sig USA 556/551a1/556r. (I know they are not the same spec just not metel like the 550/551/552.) 6- please school me on anything I may be missing. I know little about these pistols. I do own a 556 patrol with about 4k rounds through it so I understand the system even tho it is not a true Swiss sig. Please list any places that are known where they can be prechused. All my google search just brings up fourm threads. Thanks!!! |
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Quoted: Will they come down in price? $4,000 is a ridicoulous price. If there going to be more common won't that drive the price down? Or like SCAR 17 common?  I'm sure it will be like SCAR 17 common, which is fine since I already picked my 553P up. I hope it only increases in value. |
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Will they come down in price? $4,000 is a ridicoulous price. If there going to be more common won't that drive the price down? Or like SCAR 17 common? I do not think they will go down much, the Swiss 550s(classic green) currently sold in Canada go for similar money up there. Everything Swiss made costs a but load of cash  Except for the old PE57s, you get them in Europe for a bit less, of course you can't import them!
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Look at the exchange rate. Until we, the good 'ole US of A, return to the strong dollar of the late nineties, European stuff is going to cost a boat load. Hence why a lot of European mfgs of various things, like cars, guns, etc. have opened up US mfg arms. They can't sell it for cheap enough in the US to be competitive without it. The current run up on the Swiss Franc is much, much worse than the Euro since the Euro is about as fucked as the USD.
To make things worse (apparently for you), even if we had a strong dollar, Swiss Arms would still be expensive as hell because they are the Rolex of firearms. You pay for brand, quality of craftsmanship and design. If you are holding out for cheaper prices, you'll be waiting a long, long time. It is akin to waiting for Ferraris to get cheaper just because the Prius did. |
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I read the barrel on the 553 is a 1:10 twist. Is that true? Why 1:10 when 556/551a1 is 1:7? Also what is better the new forged alumin lowers or the stamped metal lower that the 550/551/552 have? Will the 553 ever be imported with the stamped metal lower? You should really be asking why the 556/551-A1 is a 1:7 when the Sig 550 (which they are both based on) was designed and built as a 1:10. As for which lower is better, I would assume that there are advantages to going with a machined aluminum lower if Swiss Arms has gone to using them. Probably easier to manufacture, and may be slightly lighter. |
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Will they come down in price? $4,000 is a ridicoulous price. If there going to be more common won't that drive the price down? Or like SCAR 17 common? Quoted:
Will they come down in price? $4,000 is a ridicoulous price. If there going to be more common won't that drive the price down? Or like SCAR 17 common? Not really. Look at how much they cost in other places around the world. $4000 is only slightly higher than we pay for them here in Canada (about $3500 + tax), and we're probably importing many more than are being imported to the U.S. (as we are importing them in all configurations, and the full length rifles don't need to be registered up here). I doubt the prices will fall as they're a specialized item and few will be imported. Quoted:I do not think they will go down much, the Swiss 550s(classic green) currently sold in Canada go for similar money up there. Everything Swiss made costs a but load of cash Except for the old PE57s, you get them in Europe for a bit less, of course you can't import them!Yes, they are expensive rifles. You get a lot of rifle for your money though, and I'd rather have 1 Swiss Sig than 3 cheap AR's. I was actually shooting my Swiss Sig Black Special Target (flat top rifle) at a Service Rifle match this morning (Championship Match 14), and scored 50.09 on the 500 yard deliberates (out of a possible 50.10). They are very capable rifles. Also remember that this rifle is stock, just as it came from the factory. No fancy SS match barrels and FF hand guards. |
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btw, the barrels on the Sig 553's that have been imported are actually 1:7 not 1:10. the importer claims 1:10, but they are wrong and I have several pieces of definitive proof if someone really needs to see it. not that it matters much.
All SIG 55x come in either 1:7 or 1:10, 1:7 is the -2 model for export, also called NATO model. Most of the 55x you see around the world outside Switzerland are the -2 models with 1:7 twist. The 1:10 is specially designed for the swiss ammo, although it surprisingly (to some) shoots heavy stuff very well. |
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btw, the barrels on the Sig 553's that have been imported are actually 1:7 not 1:10. the importer claims 1:10, but they are wrong and I have several pieces of definitive proof if someone really needs to see it. not that it matters much. All SIG 55x come in either 1:7 or 1:10, 1:7 is the -2 model for export, also called NATO model. Most of the 55x you see around the world outside Switzerland are the -2 models with 1:7 twist. The 1:10 is specially designed for the swiss ammo, although it surprisingly (to some) shoots heavy stuff very well. Most of the ones here in Canada are 1:10. |
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btw, the barrels on the Sig 553's that have been imported are actually 1:7 not 1:10. the importer claims 1:10, but they are wrong and I have several pieces of definitive proof if someone really needs to see it. not that it matters much. All SIG 55x come in either 1:7 or 1:10, 1:7 is the -2 model for export, also called NATO model. Most of the 55x you see around the world outside Switzerland are the -2 models with 1:7 twist. The 1:10 is specially designed for the swiss ammo, although it surprisingly (to some) shoots heavy stuff very well. I would really like to see what you have. Not changeling you, but just like to be informed. Please post! |
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Sorry for the delay, been out of the country. If you don't believe this, straight from Swiss Arms in CH, I can tell you how you can easily verify yourself. Or rather, just google how to do it, it isn't that hard. Plus, note the fact that the valves that were distributed with the 553Ps are the valves for the 1-7 twist, not the 1-10 twist which are 1.3/1.4. This is what got me suspicious in the beginning. It is very clear that the 553Ps are 1:7 twist, not 1:10 twist, in fact there is not a single piece of evidence to suggest 1:10 twist other than the verbal word of the man who imported them, everything else strongly points to 1:7 twist including the written word of Swiss Arms.
------ Dear <snip>, Correct, all rifles of SG553P are 7” twist. Best regards, Ev Ev Pätzold Sales Assistant SAN Swiss Arms AG Industrieplatz / P.O. Box 1071 CH-8212 Neuhausen a. Rhf. Phone + 41 52 674 65 65 Direct + 41 52 674 75 10 Fax + 41 52 674 64 18 <his email snipped for spamming purposes> www.swissarms.ch Von: <snip> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Juli 2013 12:44 An: Pätzold Ev Betreff: RE: barrel upgrade Thank you very much, I appreciate you getting back to me. So you are saying that the SG 553P that I own, serial # <snip>, is in fact 1:7" twist, NOT 1:10" twist like we were told. I just want to verify this, as it is big news. Are all of the 553P in America 1:7" twist? I look forward to your response. <snip> From: Pätzold Ev [mailto:<snip>] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:01 AM To: <snip> Subject: AW: barrel upgrade Dear <snip>, Thank you for your reply. Sorry for the late approach. We carefully checked your issue and have following results for you: - Your rifle SG 553P semi-automatic has barrel twist 7” (10” will be used for Swiss ammunition called GP90) - The gas valve mounted on this rifle has the article number 34 554 929, i.e. thread diameter 1,2 (1st setting) and 1,3 (2nd setting) <snip> Best regards, Ev Ev Pätzold Sales Assistant SAN Swiss Arms AG Industrieplatz / P.O. Box 1071 CH-8212 Neuhausen a. Rhf. Phone + 41 52 674 65 65 Direct + 41 52 674 75 10 Fax + 41 52 674 64 18 <snip> www.swissarms.ch |
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