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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:44:22 PM EDT
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Hi,
Any place to get a copy of an FFL transfer? I bought an AR lower in 2011 through a private FFL gentleman and I am unable to find my copy or his info. I ask because I want to know if it was submitted as a rifle lower or unspecified. Anyway to check using a S/N? Thanks |
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Typically, customers do not get copies of 4473s. In fact, I recommend to my FFL clients that they do not give out copies.
If you purchased the receiver as a bare receiver, then it should've been transferred to you as such. Even if the FFL mistakenly transferred it to you as a rifle, this is incorrect and not something upon which you can rely. Therefore, even if the FFL called it a rifle it is still legally a receiver until you make it into a rifle. Even if you were to contact the manufacturer and confirm that it was sold as a rifle, it still doesn't mean that someone later didn't break it down into a receiver and sell it as such. I can help more if I know why you're curious. |
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Hi, Any place to get a copy of an FFL transfer? I bought an AR lower in 2011 through a private FFL gentleman and I am unable to find my copy or his info. I ask because I want to know if it was submitted as a rifle lower or unspecified. Anyway to check using a S/N? Thanks |
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Thank you for the replies.
So, the FFL gave me a copy of the transfer. It was a stripped Spikes lower I had shipped to him from DSG Arms. It's been sitting in the safe since then. I was planning to build a rifle but Money tight and all.... So... After seeing my coworker's pistol build, I have become interested in maybe building a pistol to get around an SBR tax.... Something small for home defense. Just wanted to know if this was on the level. |
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As long as it left the factory as a stripped receiver (and was never made into a rifle prior to being a pistol) then you may make it into a pistol. It really doesn't matter how the FFL marked the 4473.
Once first assembled as a pistol, you may later reconfigure into a rifle and then back into a pistol at will. They used to offer stripped lowers marked PISTOL because some people are nervous about these things, although I think that's overkill. The serial number will verify its configuration as it left the manufacturer. That is how ATF would check (if they ever did). I always assemble my stripped lowers as pistols first, so I have the option to reconfigure later. |
| If it has been sitting in the safe, build what you want, it does not matter what was marked on the 4473. Legally you can't build into a rifle, then switch to a pistol, but if you build as a pistol first, you can pretty much do what you want in the future.. Normally the person who is purchasing does not get a copy of the 4473, so it is odd that he gave you one. |
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As long as it left the factory as a stripped receiver (and was never made into a rifle prior to being a pistol) then you may make it into a pistol. It really doesn't matter how the FFL marked the 4473. Once first assembled as a pistol, you may later reconfigure into a rifle and then back into a pistol at will. They used to offer stripped lowers marked PISTOL because some people are nervous about these things, although I think that's overkill. The serial number will verify its configuration as it left the manufacturer. That is how ATF would check (if they ever did). I always assemble my stripped lowers as pistols first, so I have the option to reconfigure later. |
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