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Posted: 12/17/2013 5:08:02 PM EDT
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So my smith/friend shoots me a text this afternoon with a link to a local Craigslist ad and asks what I thought. It's for a guy doing frame reductions, stippling etc. my reply was "so what". His reply was "he doesn't have an FFL and claims that the local field office said he didn't need one". I said "bull shit, he's lying". So what I gather is he's doing gun smithing without an FFL, business license, uninsured and according to him ATF is cool with that. Here's a copy of ole dudes ad. What do y'all think? Is my smith and I off mark by saying he's full of it and he needs an FFL?
"I have been working with and modifying Firearms for over 6 years. 3 years ago I started stippling various firearms and accessories. I do this work as a hobby from my military profession. I am a perfectionist and will not disappoint you. I can do Full/Partial frame stippling, polymer frame grip reduction, trigger guard indexing, undercut and 90*, and sight adjustment/replacement. I am also able to do AR furniture stippling, various magazines, & misc. equipment (knives, tools, etc.) My prices vary given the size and detail of your project. PRICES FOR SERVICES *Mid-size Poly frame stippling - $40-80 *Trigger guard index and or undercut - $10-20 *Standard P-Mag or similar - $8 *Pistol Sight replacement - $25-45 *Frame grip reduction - $20-80 *Mag Release indention - $5 *Trigger guard front 90* - $10 All prices are negotiable and I will cut cost for multiple services combined. I am open to trades for services as well." I have many more pictures of my work. If you would like see more or have questions please feel free to E-mail, text, or call Ben at 256-xxx-xxxx Thank you. |
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Given that some of the services he is offering involve the serial numbered frame or receiver (aka "the gun") I'd say the following likely comes into play:
Q: Is a license needed to engage in the business of engraving, customizing, refinishing or repairing firearms? Yes. A person conducting such activities as a business is considered to be a gunsmith within the definition of a dealer. 27 CFR 478.11 CL and Facebook is full of guys painting, stippling, etc...  that don't know the rules...they come and go.
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| After talking with my buddy about the conversation he had with the guy, he's probably going to get a cease and desist letter from ATF. I guess the kid became a know it all smart ass to my buddy and that didn't go over so well with him. I guess some people just don't want help and wanna do it their way. |
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After talking with my buddy about the conversation he had with the guy, he's probably going to get a cease and desist letter from ATF. I guess the kid became a know it all smart ass to my buddy and that didn't go over so well with him. I guess some people just don't want help and wanna do it their way. edited dont want another warning 
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Given that some of the services he is offering involve the serial numbered frame or receiver (aka "the gun") I'd say the following likely comes into play: Q: Is a license needed to engage in the business of engraving, customizing, refinishing or repairing firearms? Yes. A person conducting such activities as a business is considered to be a gunsmith within the definition of a dealer. 27 CFR 478.11 CL and Facebook is full of guys painting, stippling, etc... that don't know the rules...they come and go.
What he said. Hobby my a$$, he's doing this as a side business and needs a license. |
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