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Posted: 7/18/2012 4:01:19 AM EDT
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I bougth a new handgun through an online auction, requiring interstate transfer, and the seller for a reason I don't know, sends it direct to me rather than my FFL. Maybe he is dumb or he made an honest mistake because he was busy and in a rush. I get the impression he is fairly inexperienced since he only had 3 feedback, all of them positive. I assumed that if someone has gone through the process to get their FFL and invested money in the operation they would know the laws. We never discussed the concept that I was buying the gun and it HAD to be sent to another FFL. I will in the future to be sure!
All I know a package shows up in the hands of my mail carrier requiring an adult signature. I really didn't scrutinize the source since we have a home based business (non-firearm related) and we get deliveries of this type all the time. Upon opening the box and seeing the contents I couldn't believe my eyes. My first thought was how the hell can he be so freakin dumb and then the idea that maybe I had been set up by a sham dealer hell bent on discrediting the auction or gun owners in general crept into my mind. I'm a little scared here. I just want to make my purchase legit and make sure my local FFL that I use for transfers isn't negatively impacted by this. I'm thinking I need to go to my local FFL and explain what happened and have them process the transfer but I would like some help from those that know the ropes. |
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What's done is done....You should have called your dealer for his thoughts before asking the world theirs. I just would like an idea what I'm in for before I go there, in person, to sort this out. The selling dealer wasn't exactly GTG and I like as many opinions on where I stand. I see the potential for big problems down the road if this is mishandled. |
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Resolved! My FFL was gracious enough to just process it as normal. He said it happens all the time and its no big deal provided it is logged through the delivering FFL of record. Whew! <––––FFL Sorry, but your dealer, while gracious, is flat out wrong. It IS a big deal and if the seller is an FFL he needs to be reamed out pronto. The seller, whether a licensed dealer or not, CANNOT ship a firearm directly to a nonlicensee. It's a serious Federal crime. Him for shipping interstate to a nonlicensee, YOU for receiving it. (there are exceptions, such as the return of a repaired or replaced firearm...but this isnt one) It most certainly does not "happen all the time". I average 150+ transfers a month and cannot remember a time when the seller shipped directly to one of my customers. |
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Resolved! My FFL was gracious enough to just process it as normal. He said it happens all the time and its no big deal provided it is logged through the delivering FFL of record. Whew! <––––FFL Sorry, but your dealer, while gracious, is flat out wrong. It IS a big deal and if the seller is an FFL he needs to be reamed out pronto. The seller, whether a licensed dealer or not, CANNOT ship a firearm directly to a nonlicensee. It's a serious Federal crime. Him for shipping interstate to a nonlicensee, YOU for receiving it. (there are exceptions, such as the return of a repaired or replaced firearm...but this isnt one) It most certainly does not "happen all the time". I average 150+ transfers a month and cannot remember a time when the seller shipped directly to one of my customers. People are human (some) and make all kinds of mistakes. As soon as I opened the box I myself knew something was wrong although I know hardly jack shit about what a FFL should or can do under the law. I was looking for a resoultion to the problem. I believe the seller made an honest mistake that I had no control over. Should I have called the feds and turned him in for this and then surrendered myself to the authorities? Should my dealer have held me at gunpoint until the FBI arrived? If one of your clients had this happen to them would you report them to BATF or what? |
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Resolved! My FFL was gracious enough to just process it as normal. He said it happens all the time and its no big deal provided it is logged through the delivering FFL of record. Whew! <––––FFL Sorry, but your dealer, while gracious, is flat out wrong. It IS a big deal and if the seller is an FFL he needs to be reamed out pronto. The seller, whether a licensed dealer or not, CANNOT ship a firearm directly to a nonlicensee. It's a serious Federal crime. Him for shipping interstate to a nonlicensee, YOU for receiving it. (there are exceptions, such as the return of a repaired or replaced firearm...but this isnt one) It most certainly does not "happen all the time". I average 150+ transfers a month and cannot remember a time when the seller shipped directly to one of my customers. People are human (some) and make all kinds of mistakes. As soon as I opened the box I myself knew something was wrong although I know hardly jack shit about what a FFL should or can do under the law. I was looking for a resoultion to the problem. I believe the seller made an honest mistake that I had no control over. Should I have called the feds and turned him in for this and then surrendered myself to the authorities? Should my dealer have held me at gunpoint until the FBI arrived? If one of your clients had this happen to them would you report them to BATF or what? The dealer that shipped you the gun involved YOU in a Federal crime.......if you're okay with that fine. If it were me, he would get an ass chewing and negative feedback at the very least. You would be doing the seller a massive favor by chewing him out. An "honest mistake" or not, he can be fined or serve time and never own a gun again if ATF were to discover his negligence. |
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