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Posted: 12/8/2013 4:42:59 AM EDT
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Okay...I really can't afford one.....but I'm thinking of selling off a few guns and buying a bullpup.
I see a lot of Tavor and etc. threads. None on the FS2000. Am I missing something? I thought they were a decent gun when they first came out. And It is about the only bullpup I ever see around here (redneck/rural MT) and it's about the same price as any other one. |
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I would own one if I could justify the two downsides to buying:
1. FN stopped making them (supposedly this is a "temporary" halt in production) 2. You can't get parts for them. You can get things from FN directly, but once FN stops making, distributing, selling parts, etc you have a Valmet, FNC, etc type gun that has no parts support. |
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Quoted: I would own one if I could justify the two downsides to buying: 1. FN stopped making them (supposedly this is a "temporary" halt in production) 2. You can't get parts for them. You can get things from FN directly, but once FN stops making, distributing, selling parts, etc you have a Valmet, FNC, etc type gun that has no parts support. |
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Okay...I really can't afford one.....but I'm thinking of selling off a few guns and buying a bullpup. I see a lot of Tavor and etc. threads. None on the FS2000. Am I missing something? I thought they were a decent gun when they first came out. And It is about the only bullpup I ever see around here (redneck/rural MT) and it's about the same price as any other one. I've said before I prefer the FS2000 to the Tavor, but the AUG to both of them... FS2000 balances better for me, but it's noticeably fat in comparison to the AUG. I like its disassembly much better than the Tavor, prefer the short-stroke gas system to the Tavor's long-stroke, but there are WAY more AUG parts/options/accessories than FS2000. The FS2000 might as well be a proprietary magazine given the VERY limited magwell - it pretty much takes 30+ rd GI style mags. No Magpuls, no Lancer, no Troy, etc, etc, etc. FS2000 with the tri-rail forend and no integrated optic is a whole different animal IMO than the original "tactical tuna". I guess I have a slightly different take than Maleante's - if FN is discontinuing them, and you like the gun, get 'em while you can 
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I hate the one I bought For my wife, but I'm used to the m4 so ars are more natural to me. My wife fired a couple mags through it and I have to say the thing is crazy accurate and does actually feel pretty good in the hand, but not being able to throw in my geiselle really messed with me. The weight is good, the barrels are top of the line, and cleaning is about as easy as it gets for a gun, plus no tavor face. . Overall get them while you can. I'm seeing the prices start to inch up for them on gunbroker. I think people have realized it isnt likely to come back. I do have one weird thing to say. They are loud. Not sure if it's the slant break that comes on it, but.noticeably louder than my ar with the same ammo.
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I would own one if I could justify the two downsides to buying: 1. FN stopped making them (supposedly this is a "temporary" halt in production) 2. You can't get parts for them. You can get things from FN directly, but once FN stops making, distributing, selling parts, etc you have a Valmet, FNC, etc type gun that has no parts support. As well as Midwest gun works |
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I would own one if I could justify the two downsides to buying: 1. FN stopped making them (supposedly this is a "temporary" halt in production) 2. You can't get parts for them. You can get things from FN directly, but once FN stops making, distributing, selling parts, etc you have a Valmet, FNC, etc type gun that has no parts support. As well as Midwest gun works Ignorant me, didn't know that.  
What has FN said lately about the return of the FS2K? |
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NavyLS2, quick question - what do you mean "Tavor face are you refering to the gas blast or what? Yeah the gas blast. Was at a carbine course with a guy his eyes were watering for half the time and he was always scrubbing crap off his face and blowing residue out of his nose. No one else had this problem with a wide range of guns. that was my only experience with them but it left a bad taste in my and apparently his mouth.
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Hmm...
Good to know. It's just a fancy but something about a bullpup is very appealing and theres no good conversions for cheaper guns out there. The only bullup I have gotten to handle was a FS2000 and a Kel-tec RFB. You just don't see bullpups around here. I did SEE an AUG once but the guy wanted $3,000 for it. When I'm dropping that much coin I'd at least like to be able to handle one in person. |
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i love my fs2k it';s a fantastic bullpup. I have the fn tri-rail on it along with an eotech and troy b.u.i.s. It really melts into your body and feels very natural in your arms
Augs are also great. (I have both) if u want one get one (IMHO they could go up in value) |
| I have one. Love it, even in "tactical tuna" form. More accurate than a bullpup should be. My only real gripes are the mag issue (minor for me) and the lack of a last shot bolt hold open. I guess I'd be nervous if FN stopped supporting it too, but I worry about parts support with my Ruger .44 carbine and a few other guns too. I still shoot them. |
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Own a FS2000 and AUG and have shot a Tavor.
The FS is bulky and light, the AUG is compact and dense. Aesthetically I prefer the AUG but I really can't fault the FS2k for being chunky. There are some real advantages to the FS2000 design: ambidexterious ejection is a real plus since you don't need a extra part to convert for left handed use. Plus, the location of the mag release is perfect on the FS, you can pop it with the blade of your hand while getting a grip on the mag. Plus, the FS is even better sealed against environmental debris than the AUG. Of course, the price you pay for the ambi ejection system is increased complexity. That said, I've never had a malfunction caused by the ejection parts. Not locking a mag fully in, OTOH... The other nice thing about the FS is the gas system is metered by a removable screw in the gas block. You can tune it for a supressor or for specific ammo. H |
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I had an FS2000, I really liked it except for the trigger. I feel like as a platform it had potential since it had a removable lower like an AR-15 but FN never did anything with it, no long barrel offerings, no different calibers. FN just doesn't care about selling it or making their product any better.
If it was possible to put something that felt as good as a Geissele SSA-E, I might still own one. |
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I have one. Love it, even in "tactical tuna" form. More accurate than a bullpup should be. My only real gripes are the mag issue (minor for me) and the lack of a last shot bolt hold open. I guess I'd be nervous if FN stopped supporting it too, but I worry about parts support with my Ruger .44 carbine and a few other guns too. I still shoot them. This is why I sold mine. It was crazy fast to get on target and even more so when I put a rx30 reflex on it. Very accurate too. |
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I don't even own an FS2000 anymore and still haven't bought more than 2 pmags and one troy. Nothing like complaining a design is out of spec when the magazines you want to use are inherently out of STANAG specs.
Would it be nice if it had a gaping mag well to use these massive, bulky magazines that just recently started being designed slimmer? Sure, but you have to respect the origins. It is supposed to use FNC magazines, as it has no BHO, and no one in Belgium was like "let's make this fit a polymer magazines from a small company that didn't even exist when we began designing this. Also, if the FS2000 ever has a MKII model emerge, it may fix your complaints on the magazine compatibility. |
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PMAGS EMAGS LANCERS TROY CAA There is alot about the 2000 I like but the fact that it's limited in mag choices is a design shortcoming... It works flawlessly with my "SHTF" magazines (HK steel magazines). And it also works flawlessly with my cheap GI aluminum magazines. I'm not super stressed about the Pmag (etc) issue. If you are though, the FS2000 probably isn't the gun for you. |
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I like mine. The Tavor is a good weapon and so is the AUG. (I own an AUG). But the tuna is my favorite.
Ideally, it would be great if it took all AR type mags. But as was said above, it's not really the guns fault. Mags like Pmags can be ran if they're slightly modified or if the magwell gasket is removed. But I'm perfectly fine using any decently made aluminum STANAG mag or my favorite. The Israeli E-Landers. I like the little extra weight. People complain about no bolt hold open. But honestly, the expect everything to run like an AR. If your FS2000 is just a range gun, who cares. If it's your SHTF/go to/home defense/etc, etc rifle. Train with it and it's not a problem. There are bad FS2000 weapons out there. But many of the issues come from or are compounded by folks not running the them correctly. Examples include. People locking the bolt to the rear after an empty mag (which to me creates and extra and unnecessary step, so they can "HK slap it" and forcing the magazine to high. Getting a misfeed/malfunctions and trying to clear them without removing the mag. Causing double and triple feeds. And quite simply not inserting the mag deep/far enough without a "click". If you want this gun to run like an AR, it won't. Parts are available (albeit not as available as other guns) like has been mentioned. Buy yourself a repair kit or two and a few extra parts (like the switch, these are mainly broken by accident by people) and you'll be good to go for years/ever. But unless you run your gun very hard or shoot 10,000 (or whatever) rounds through it a year I doubt you'll break much, if anything. I'm not singling anyone here out. But it's hilarious when people complain about spare parts for a gun, that they put a 100 rounds through a year or two. All guns have their quirks. |
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http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/bleedformercy/IMG_4745RemovalofSotckBoltsa.jpg dont forget about the assortment of bolts that hold the stock halves together.. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/bleedformercy/IMG_4746Cropped.jpg ...other than that I like it Since I live in Oregon I was kind concerned about the bolts rusting. So I replaced all the hardware with stainless bolts any nylock nuts. Total cost was around $20 or so. I also bought spares since shipping was most of the cost. H |
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This is my go to now. I don't even have an AR platform at the moment. Although I'm looking at the AR-10 SASS. Love this rifle. It's a low 4 digit serial number. I have since had it modded for a suppressor. Leupold CQ/T optics. My brother just picked one up this weekend with the factory scope/cover and tri-rail.  |
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I've got a friend with a Tavor that's let me shoot his. They do have these things called airplanes too. H Quoted:
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Interesting. Now if I could just find someone with a Tavor, FS2000, Aug,etc. and let me shoot em all I'd know what I want I've got a friend with a Tavor that's let me shoot his. They do have these things called airplanes too. H Yeah but airplanes will cost me dang near 600 rounds of ammo. Oh if I look 'round I can proooobably find one to at least handle. |
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Quoted:It is about the only bullpup I ever see around here (redneck/rural MT) I've only seen one FN in Havre, and the only Steyrs I have seen in the area were the ones in the hands of the Customs agents in Great Falls. I have heard of one other Tavor in the State, and know a dealer in Great Falls that says he has one coming in. |
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