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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Steyr A3 update.... (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/9/2012 7:12:33 PM EDT
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The first batch of Steyr A3's is nearing completion. Ratworx was notified today that they should have their first batch around the third week of August. Ratworx will be distributing the A3's, as well as the full line of Steyr parts. Barrels, bolts, the whole deal. There will be some rifles at first with Sabre Defense marked receivers, but they will all have the FNH produced cold hammer forged barrel. As soon as those receivers dry up, rifles will be built with receivers that were machined by the good folks at Vltor. I for one, cannot wait to get one of each of these rifles.
Ratworx will be running a special promotion for a limited time. If you have previously purchased an AUG clone, and wish to upgrade to a Steyr with a FNH cold hammer forged barrel, Ratworx will give you a trade in allowance of $500 if it takes standard mags or $600 if it takes AR mags. I placed my order today. DR |
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Ratworx will be running a special promotion for a limited time. If you have previously purchased an AUG clone, and wish to upgrade to a Steyr with a FNH cold hammer forged barrel, Ratworx will give you a trade in allowance of $500 if it takes standard mags or $600 if it takes AR mags. That is very impressive. For those out there who may regret their MSAR for one reason or another, this is a great time to get an authentic AUG at a decent price. |
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The first batch of Steyr A3's is nearing completion. Ratworx was notified today that they should have their first batch around the third week of August. Ratworx will be distributing the A3's, as well as the full line of Steyr parts. Barrels, bolts, the whole deal. There will be some rifles at first with Sabre Defense marked receivers, but they will all have the FNH produced cold hammer forged barrel. As soon as those receivers dry up, rifles will be built with receivers that were machined by the good folks at Vltor. I for one, cannot wait to get one of each of these rifles. Ratworx will be running a special promotion for a limited time. If you have previously purchased an AUG clone, and wish to upgrade to a Steyr with a FNH cold hammer forged barrel, Ratworx will give you a trade in allowance of $500 if it takes standard mags or $600 if it takes AR mags. I placed my order today. DR This is very interesting. I'd like to see photos of the finished product first. Will the new A3s be available with a NATO-style stock that accepts AR mags? |
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The first batch of Steyr A3's is nearing completion. Ratworx was notified today that they should have their first batch around the third week of August. Ratworx will be distributing the A3's, as well as the full line of Steyr parts. Barrels, bolts, the whole deal. There will be some rifles at first with Sabre Defense marked receivers, but they will all have the FNH produced cold hammer forged barrel. As soon as those receivers dry up, rifles will be built with receivers that were machined by the good folks at Vltor. I for one, cannot wait to get one of each of these rifles. Ratworx will be running a special promotion for a limited time. If you have previously purchased an AUG clone, and wish to upgrade to a Steyr with a FNH cold hammer forged barrel, Ratworx will give you a trade in allowance of $500 if it takes standard mags or $600 if it takes AR mags. I placed my order today. DR WOW ! Vltor receiver and a FN barrel , i cant wait to see it. |
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Why would anyone trade-in their MSAR to them for $500 when they could easily sell it themselves for $900-1100? Just off the top of my head, someone could have a beat to $&*! gun, broken gun, or are just tired of it and want out of MSAR. I assume that ratworx will get many in trade, just the same way a local gun shop gets trade-ins where the owner just wants it gone and is wanting a new firearm... |
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So what are they going for? Just checked rtworx sight but did not see anything about the rifle. MSRP on the new A3 is $2099. My guess is you will be able to purchase them for cheaper than MSRP. You need to call and talk to Aaron at Ratworx. He should know tomorrow what the retail and dealer prices will be and he will get you on the list. |
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Wow, VLTOR is doing the receivers? Very nice. Yes. They will do the machining on the castings, just like SD did. The guys at VLTOR will do a great job with this project, I was pleased to see that they were involved with this project. Remember, everything except for the labeling on the receivers, will be the same. |
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Why would anyone trade-in their MSAR to them for $500 when they could easily sell it themselves for $900-1100? No idea, but Ratworx has to make a profit. My guess is that they'll part out a lot of them. They will part some of them out, and probably sell some of them after they go through them. |
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Ratworx will be running a special promotion for a limited time... Ratworx will give you a trade in allowance of $500 if it takes standard mags or $600 if it takes AR mags. DR Though they do many great things at Ratworx, I've already been raped for my MSAR. Once is enough. 
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Ratworx will be running a special promotion for a limited time... Ratworx will give you a trade in allowance of $500 if it takes standard mags or $600 if it takes AR mags. DR Though they do many great things at Ratworx, I've already been raped for my MSAR. Once is enough. I don't have a problem with ratworx's offer but I can't see anyone doing that. You could put a MSAR in the EE for $700 with the titile "this is a POS, I hate it" and it would sell in 5 min. That aside, its good that the A3 is on its way back. Im hoping the pricing is OK. |
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The first batch of Steyr A3's is nearing completion. Ratworx was notified today that they should have their first batch around the third week of August. Ratworx will be distributing the A3's, as well as the full line of Steyr parts. Barrels, bolts, the whole deal. There will be some rifles at first with Sabre Defense marked receivers, but they will all have the FNH produced cold hammer forged barrel. As soon as those receivers dry up, rifles will be built with receivers that were machined by the good folks at Vltor. I for one, cannot wait to get one of each of these rifles. Ratworx will be running a special promotion for a limited time. If you have previously purchased an AUG clone, and wish to upgrade to a Steyr with a FNH cold hammer forged barrel, Ratworx will give you a trade in allowance of $500 if it takes standard mags or $600 if it takes AR mags. I placed my order today. DR Dave if you are going to push the Steyr AUG A3 rifle shouldn't you mention Pete Athens Pjs Investments also? He's only been around selling Steyr rifles and parts for over 25 years. In fact he just got 33 AUG A3s from Steyr last week. Shouldn't he be mentioned too? Or what about Mike the Specialist he too has been selling AUGs lot longer then Ratworx been around? I heard the only reason Ratworx is getting into the AUG thing because they fell out with Microtech/MSAR. MSAR cut all ties and refuses to sell Ratworx any knives or guns. Dave it's kinda weird that you work for a gun distributor yourself and you are here plugging away for Ratworx, I'm sure you could buy an AUG A3 direct from Steyr if you wanted. Seems that you and Ratworx might be a bit angry towards MSAR? Offering $500 & $600 in trade in for an MSAR rifle for an AUG A3, big slap in the face to MSAR and to the STG owners? 
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Ratworx carried the A3 when it first came out.
When you go to my local ma and pop stores they'll offer you such shit deals on trade that the employees themselves will tell you it's not worth it. Why are they offering a trade-in on the MSAR? Well, they know people go to them for MSAR parts and they can sell them along with their rifles. I don't think Ratworx or anyone regardless of hate for MSAR is going to take a bath financially just because. It's not like RW is going to take all the STG and E4 rifles and melt them or something. The E4 remains the most versatile of the bullpups. Steyr never came out of with different barrel lengths and I really, really wish they would copy MSAR's E-4's flank rails or do something similar to make mounting a single point sling a bit easier. The AUG is definitely not single-point friendly. Neither is the Tavor though for that matter. Steyr has a .22 LR conversion kit that for some reason they will not release yet and I hope that changes soon. The E4 is the only one that ever had the ability to do the caliber changes, which sucks. Be nice if Steyr would do a 300 AAC Blackout, but I think it's safe to say hell will freeze over before that happens. No 6.8 SPC or 7.62x39mm conversion will probably ever come from Steyr. So, the Steyr is going to be UBER high quality, but it's strictly a 5.56/.223 affair.
VLTOR is awesome. If anyone can do good machine work on a receiver it's them, but at the end of the day the Steyr is still a cast receiver. The TPD AXR was billet and remains the best receivers ever done IMHO for a bullpup rifle.
Why Steyr will not change the barrel threading is beyond me as well? I don't get it. Why is 13x1 so sacred to them? Austrians can be stubborn I guess. Get a new NATO stock with the A3 bolt release/catch, thread 1/2x28, and get a 1:7 twist with that sucker. Put some kind of attachment point for rails on the rear flanks and for the love of God somebody come out with a gas regulator for suppression already. I mean who wouldn't want a 1:7 twist 1/2x28 threaded CHF CL FNH Barrel that was 14.5" SBR with a freaking suppressor and gas regulator with suppression setting? I know, I always want more, but hey I don't ask for the world. 2013 is going be a year of the bullpup. With the Tavor coming out it's going to be bullpup vs bullpup. If MSAR has actually put itself together they might do very well. At any rate it's good times for us. |
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2013 is going be a year of the bullpup. With the Tavor coming out it's going to be bullpup vs bullpup. If MSAR has actually put itself together they might do very well. At any rate it's good times for us. Wasn't 2010 supposed to be the year of the bullpup? How about we wait until there's actual product on the shelves before we get our hopes up again? I'll admit there's a lot of cool stuff that's been announced, and I'm sure the aftermarket industry is going to have even more stuff...but I remember how we all were hyped that the MCS was right around the corner, the RFB was in production, the Tavor was on the way, and both Steyr and MSAR were going great guns in 2009 and we all thought 2010 would be the year the 'pups broke out and got some respect. And we all know what happened. MSAR melted down, CD crashed and burned, Steyr pulled out of the market, and Keltec never really ramped up production to meet demand. Also, for it to be the year of anything, the product has to be available to dealers through the channel and hit has to be on their shelves. Product in a handful of internet based venues hardly qualifies making it a year of anything except promises. |
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The first batch of Steyr A3's is nearing completion. Ratworx was notified today that they should have their first batch around the third week of August. Ratworx will be distributing the A3's, as well as the full line of Steyr parts. Barrels, bolts, the whole deal. There will be some rifles at first with Sabre Defense marked receivers, but they will all have the FNH produced cold hammer forged barrel. As soon as those receivers dry up, rifles will be built with receivers that were machined by the good folks at Vltor. I for one, cannot wait to get one of each of these rifles. Ratworx will be running a special promotion for a limited time. If you have previously purchased an AUG clone, and wish to upgrade to a Steyr with a FNH cold hammer forged barrel, Ratworx will give you a trade in allowance of $500 if it takes standard mags or $600 if it takes AR mags. I placed my order today. DR Dave if you are going to push the Steyr AUG A3 rifle shouldn't you mention Pete Athens Pjs Investments also? He's only been around selling Steyr rifles and parts for over 25 years. In fact he just got 33 AUG A3s from Steyr last week. Shouldn't he be mentioned too? Or what about Mike the Specialist he too has been selling AUGs lot longer then Ratworx been around? I heard the only reason Ratworx is getting into the AUG thing because they fell out with Microtech/MSAR. MSAR cut all ties and refuses to sell Ratworx any knives or guns. Dave it's kinda weird that you work for a gun distributor yourself and you are here plugging away for Ratworx, I'm sure you could buy an AUG A3 direct from Steyr if you wanted. Seems that you and Ratworx might be a bit angry towards MSAR? Offering $500 & $600 in trade in for an MSAR rifle for an AUG A3, big slap in the face to MSAR and to the STG owners? I guess I am plugging away for Ratworx because they have done so much for the Bullpup community. They really have. I also consider the Ratworx crew to be close friends. They are really great people. On another note, not only do I work for a distributor (not Ratworx), I work for a distributor that will also be distributing the new Steyr A3's. As for the trade in program that has been offered, that is just it, an offer. An offer to upgrade your rifle to a Steyr with a FNH cold hammer forged barrel. I can understand that you could sell your rifle for more on your own, but take your rifle down to your local gun shop and get back to us here what they will give you for it. |
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The first batch of Steyr A3's is nearing completion. Ratworx was notified today that they should have their first batch around the third week of August. Ratworx will be distributing the A3's, as well as the full line of Steyr parts. Barrels, bolts, the whole deal. There will be some rifles at first with Sabre Defense marked receivers, but they will all have the FNH produced cold hammer forged barrel. As soon as those receivers dry up, rifles will be built with receivers that were machined by the good folks at Vltor. I for one, cannot wait to get one of each of these rifles. Ratworx will be running a special promotion for a limited time. If you have previously purchased an AUG clone, and wish to upgrade to a Steyr with a FNH cold hammer forged barrel, Ratworx will give you a trade in allowance of $500 if it takes standard mags or $600 if it takes AR mags. I placed my order today. DR Would it be safe to assume they will have left handed bolts available? |
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I own a 20 inch MSAR E-4.. I have less than 150 rounds through it. I realize that I haven't shot it enough to tell if it will have problems but it has not given me any problems so far and is acceptably accurate out to 300 yards. My question is; If this weapon has not given me any problems at around 150 rounds, would it be prudent to sell it or take the R.W offer in order to get an AUG A-3?
I don't know when the MSARS start ( ]Is 150 rounds enough to assume a good rifle[)to act up could anybody shed any light on this question? |
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I own a 20 inch MSAR E-4.. I have less than 150 rounds through it. I realize that I haven't shot it enough to tell if it will have problems but it has not given me any problems so far and is acceptably accurate out to 300 yards. My question is; If this weapon has not given me any problems at around 150 rounds, would it be prudent to sell it or take the R.W offer in order to get an AUG A-3? I don't know when the MSARS start ( ]Is 150 rounds enough to assume a good rifle[)to act up could anybody shed any light on this question? If it has run 150 rounds without issues you are likely fine. Just check the bolt sleeve (the toother part on top of the bolt) for peening on the front of the teeth, that is the only issue that typically shows up "after the fact" |
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I own a 20 inch MSAR E-4.. I have less than 150 rounds through it. I realize that I haven't shot it enough to tell if it will have problems but it has not given me any problems so far and is acceptably accurate out to 300 yards. My question is; If this weapon has not given me any problems at around 150 rounds, would it be prudent to sell it or take the R.W offer in order to get an AUG A-3? I don't know when the MSARS start ( ]Is 150 rounds enough to assume a good rifle[)to act up could anybody shed any light on this question? If it has run 150 rounds without issues you are likely fine. Just check the bolt sleeve (the toother part on top of the bolt) for peening on the front of the teeth, that is the only issue that typically shows up "after the fact" Thank you for the info, seems they are unmarred so far. Real happy That I seem to have gotten a good one . I guess that ( A defect free) MSAR e4 performs just as well as a AUG? |
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic... 
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven That, somehow, looks worse than the A3. |
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven That, somehow, looks worse than the A3. Never had any complaints with the hundreds we have made and sold for the MSAR, to each their own!
...and if psuedo A1 ain't your flavor, don't worry, other good things coming. 
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven That, somehow, looks worse than the A3. Never had any complaints with the hundreds we have made and sold for the MSAR, to each their own!
...and if psuedo A1 ain't your flavor, don't worry, other good things coming.
Oh, with a nice 1x4 in there.... this whole AUG thing is getting more and more tempting by the second! |
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven Sven, I sure hope you get these made for the new A3's. The one I got for my STG puts my 1-4 Trijicon in the perfect place. |
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven Sven, I sure hope you get these made for the new A3's. The one I got for my STG puts my 1-4 Trijicon in the perfect place. EXACTLY what I was thinking.... |
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven Sven, I sure hope you get these made for the new A3's. The one I got for my STG puts my 1-4 Trijicon in the perfect place. Working on them right now!
FYI the front won't be as "blunt nosed" as the prototype in the picture, it will slope and taper down more gracefully. The one in the pic was jus tthe "first go" to check fitment and general concept. |
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven Sven, I sure hope you get these made for the new A3's. The one I got for my STG puts my 1-4 Trijicon in the perfect place. EXACTLY what I was thinking.... Yep, that Talon30 is the perfect thing for a scope to fit you and your taste.  I loved that mount (prototype) that Sven sent me to test out.
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven Sven, I sure hope you get these made for the new A3's. The one I got for my STG puts my 1-4 Trijicon in the perfect place. Working on them right now!
FYI the front won't be as "blunt nosed" as the prototype in the picture, it will slope and taper down more gracefully. The one in the pic was jus tthe "first go" to check fitment and general concept. I think that was my problem with it. You got any more current pics/links? |
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven That is great. Please make it in 30mm so a Swaro 1-6x Z6i can be used. Also, how about extending an ambi QD sling swivel mount that straddles the top sides of the stock? Or please also design a QD sling mount setup for the A3 stock. I hate the location of the front sling swivel, the sling always gets in the way of the charging handle. |
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Anybody else wish they were selling A1s or A2s as well? Only reason I went with the MSAR over the Steyr is it would look like an original AUG. Well gee golly, if only there was a solution to make an A3 AUG look like an A1, but without having to use that awful "soda straw" 1970's era optic...
http://i45.tinypic.com/sfi9z9.jpg (early prototype, some changes have been made since this pic was taken) Sven A great idea. The old school look with updated optic capability. Hopefully that would shave a few ounces off the weight of the A3 rail. When and where will this be available? Both for 1 inch and 30mm scopes? |
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Steyrs MAP retail pricing on the A3 is $1999. Dealers that advertise below this price, will simply not receive product from Steyr, or distributors such as Ratworx. Ratworx bought enough A3's that will be distributing A3's to dealers as well as selling to individuals.
Ratworx will be the place to get your A3. They will have packages, such as factory NATO stock guns, mags, parts, barrels, and all the aftermarket parts and accessories that will be here soon. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Steyr A3 update.... (Page 1 of 2)
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