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Posted: 6/8/2011 6:54:59 PM EDT
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I was looking for some specific information on my AUG (cant remember what) and I ran across this; http://www.triggertamer.com/ The site appears to claim that their little invention relaxes the trigger spring to turn the AUG's trigger pull from 9lbs to 6lbs. Does anybody have a "trigger tamer" on their AUG or any other rifle? Sorry if this turns out to be a dumb question, not just 2 days ago I joined the Bullpup club with my Steyr AUG A3. I have although had an AR 15 for 3 years now, and I'm no stranger to firearms. |
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Sven: I keep hearing about the new Ratworx trigger group. Is the replacment a trigger group or the hammer pack? As far as I know they are two different things. The hammer pack is user changable by removing the butt pad and pulling the pack out. I haven't figured out how to remove the trigger without tearing into the stock. Is there an easy way to remove the trigger?  MadDog ETA: Dave R ..........................you know more about the MSAR then anybody. Is Ratworx developing an improved trigger group or hammer pack? |
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In short it works. It has been around for years and is super easy to install and it will lower the trigger pull from about 9 lbs to 5-6 and make a noticeable difference in the way you can get the most accuracy out of the rifle.
Mine is super crisp too-maybe a 1/8" takeup and then bam it goes off. Night and day from stock trigger. |
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Sven: I keep hearing about the new Ratworx trigger group. Is the replacment a trigger group or the hammer pack? As far as I know they are two different things. The hammer pack is user changable by removing the butt pad and pulling the pack out. I haven't figured out how to remove the trigger without tearing into the stock. Is there an easy way to remove the trigger?
MadDog ETA: Dave R ..........................you know more about the MSAR then anybody. Is Ratworx developing an improved trigger group or hammer pack? It is a complete trigger pack - metal internals that fit inside the standard plastic housing, but they are selling it as the whole assembly with the plastic housing. It has a couple of adjustments on it, and the trigger pull can be made very light (like 3 lbs IIRC) and it breaks like glass - none of the creep or grit of the original. I believe there is also a LOP until hammer drop adjustment. |
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The term for the fire-control group in an AUG is "hammer pack."
The actual trigger is easy to remove. You loosen the screw holding in the connector rod, and pull the rod out of the back of the stock. You then push the safety and safety spring out, and then the trigger will come out. Also, there are better options out there than the Trigger Tamer. The Neu-Trigger provides a much better feel, and doesn't reduce any spring weights. In addition, the Trigger Tamer dude came on this forum one time and threatened to sue a member who was tinkering with something similar for his own use. 
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I Have Neu-Triggers in both my E4 and love them. The difference in smoothness and pull weight is amaizing from such a simple idea and costruction. I am however going to try one of Ratworx's new hammer packs as I have always been impressed with the replacment parts that they come out with. If I like it I will buy another and have 3 stock hammer packs for a backup. MadDog
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Hmm, I see. And how much does this Ratworx trigger pack that you speak of cost? Might start getting into a local run-and-gun group that does a cash pot prize. Members put money in, winner takes all. However the standard trigger really doesn't seem all that bad in mine... |
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I put trigger tamers in my augs when they were the only game around. COmbined with some judicious polishing of the steal rods and some graphite, they are remarkably better. Looking forward to the new hammer pack.
Wondering how a metal hammer is going to interact with the plastic parts in the gun... |
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B2k4E: The new Ratworx hammer packs are not out yet so I don't know the price. I have heard they will be available in a few weeks. The body of the pack is supposed to be of the same material that they are now, however the internals are all metal. Supposidly there are some user adjustments that can be made for pull weight, take-up, and over travel. I have heard the trigger pull will be ultra smoothe, with very little take up, zero over-travel and a pull weight of 2.5 - 5 lbs. (adjustable). Don't quote me on this as I am getting the info third or fourth hand but sources are supposidly very reliable and have actually tried the new pack. MadDog
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| I must be real lucky. My A1 has a very nice smooth trigger pull without any addition (and I thought I'd have to get a trigger tamer, or similar, before I took delivery unseen). Don't understand it. The trigger pack looks unworked on. I've tried other Augs with absolutely terrible triggers.Anyone else have this experience? |
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I must be real lucky. My A1 has a very nice smooth trigger pull without any addition (and I thought I'd have to get a trigger tamer, or similar, before I took delivery unseen). Don't understand it. The trigger pack looks unworked on. I've tried other Augs with absolutely terrible triggers.Anyone else have this experience? I have four stocks each with their own hammer packs and one has a very nice trigger, two have decent triggers, and one is pretty heavy. |
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I must be real lucky. My A1 has a very nice smooth trigger pull without any addition (and I thought I'd have to get a trigger tamer, or similar, before I took delivery unseen). Don't understand it. The trigger pack looks unworked on. I've tried other Augs with absolutely terrible triggers.Anyone else have this experience? I have four stocks each with their own hammer packs and one has a very nice trigger, two have decent triggers, and one is pretty heavy. How strange that there is this inconsistancy! Presumably the t/p's and related assembly are all made with the same grade "plastic" and metal? I realise that this may be slightly off topic, but in the end the topic, basically,"Trigger Tamer or not", seems to invite comments such as the last two. Can anyone explain why some of us seem to be luckier than others regarding the Aug trigger and have no need for add ons such as Trigger Tamer? Thanks. Keith. |
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How strange that there is this inconsistancy! Presumably the t/p's and related assembly are all made with the same grade "plastic" and metal? I realise that this may be slightly off topic, but in the end the topic, basically,"Trigger Tamer or not", seems to invite comments such as the last two. Can anyone explain why some of us seem to be luckier than others regarding the Aug trigger and have no need for add ons such as Trigger Tamer? Thanks. Keith. I can no more explain this phenominon then I can tell you why out of my 7 AR's, 5 of them have the exact same trigger made by the same manufacturer and "all" of them feel very different. Two are great but have a noticable difference in pull weight and 3 of them are marginal. Two of my AR's have drop in triggers by McCormack and Gold which are phenominal but both are expensive. MadDog |
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I must be real lucky. My A1 has a very nice smooth trigger pull without any addition (and I thought I'd have to get a trigger tamer, or similar, before I took delivery unseen). Don't understand it. The trigger pack looks unworked on. I've tried other Augs with absolutely terrible triggers.Anyone else have this experience? I have four stocks each with their own hammer packs and one has a very nice trigger, two have decent triggers, and one is pretty heavy. How strange that there is this inconsistancy! Presumably the t/p's and related assembly are all made with the same grade "plastic" and metal? I realise that this may be slightly off topic, but in the end the topic, basically,"Trigger Tamer or not", seems to invite comments such as the last two. Can anyone explain why some of us seem to be luckier than others regarding the Aug trigger and have no need for add ons such as Trigger Tamer? Thanks. Keith. Not strange at all - very subtle manufacturing variations in material shape, spring force, surface roughness, etc, can add up. I also have several AR's and the triggers vary in their pull and feel. |
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Quoted: I must be real lucky. My A1 has a very nice smooth trigger pull without any addition (and I thought I'd have to get a trigger tamer, or similar, before I took delivery unseen). Don't understand it. The trigger pack looks unworked on. I've tried other Augs with absolutely terrible triggers.Anyone else have this experience? I kinda feel ya there. My A3 has a pretty decent trigger pull, lot of over-travel; but it doesn't really have that much creep to it at all. It might have half a pound more than my AR's trigger. |
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I must be real lucky. My A1 has a very nice smooth trigger pull without any addition (and I thought I'd have to get a trigger tamer, or similar, before I took delivery unseen). Don't understand it. The trigger pack looks unworked on. I've tried other Augs with absolutely terrible triggers.Anyone else have this experience? I kinda feel ya there. My A3 has a pretty decent trigger pull, lot of over-travel; but it doesn't really have that much creep to it at all. It might have half a pound more than my AR's trigger. Sounds similar to mine. I fully expected to have to fit a trigger tamer, before the A1 arrived for collection at the local Guartel, and was pretty disappointed when none of the distributors wanted to (legally) sell and ship me one. You can imagine my joy and relief (and surprise) when I arrived at the range only to find I had a non grungy/heavy, Aug trigger, and that I could actually finish with the hassles of trying to obtain a trigger tamer!! Glad to hear that you were lucky also. |
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I must be real lucky. My A1 has a very nice smooth trigger pull without any addition (and I thought I'd have to get a trigger tamer, or similar, before I took delivery unseen). Don't understand it. The trigger pack looks unworked on. I've tried other Augs with absolutely terrible triggers.Anyone else have this experience? I have four stocks each with their own hammer packs and one has a very nice trigger, two have decent triggers, and one is pretty heavy. How strange that there is this inconsistancy! Presumably the t/p's and related assembly are all made with the same grade "plastic" and metal? I realise that this may be slightly off topic, but in the end the topic, basically,"Trigger Tamer or not", seems to invite comments such as the last two. Can anyone explain why some of us seem to be luckier than others regarding the Aug trigger and have no need for add ons such as Trigger Tamer? Thanks. Keith.[/quote ] Not strange at all - very subtle manufacturing variations in material shape, spring force, surface roughness, etc, can add up. I also have several AR's and the triggers vary in their pull and feel. Dawg, agreed and point taken. |
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... the Trigger Tamer dude came on this forum one time and threatened to sue a member who was tinkering with something similar for his own use. 
I don't think they work very well. It makes the pull lighter but it is still very creepy. I also have a neu trigger, trigger is still mushy, but smoother. I can't wait for the Ratwork's hammer pack to come out, who ever came up with the idea for a plastic sear anyway
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... the Trigger Tamer dude came on this forum one time and threatened to sue a member who was tinkering with something similar for his own use.
I don't think they work very well. It makes the pull lighter but it is still very creepy. I also have a neu trigger, trigger is still mushy, but smoother. I can't wait for the Ratwork's hammer pack to come out, who ever came up with the idea for a plastic sear anyway The Austrians love their plastic. 
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