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Posted: 3/8/2017 9:21:53 PM EDT
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Hello, Since deciding to keep my 550b I have decided that I want to build a bullet feeder for the press and I will just buy the Dillon Case feeder that they have available
My question is I am having one heck of a time trying to get the groove right in the bottom plate to correctly "flip" the bullet or get it to lay flat before it rides the ramp I have made a bottom plate and I have made about 6 trial grooves and I have been able to get some work well but only when the entire thing is tipped at a 45deg angle or more and some seem to want to throw the bullet out of the unit. Just want to see if anyone here has words of advise other than " Just buy a Mr. Bullet Feeder " because that is not an option right now. And I would rather get the knowledge and hands on of building my own right at the moment. Thanks. |
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I don't remember a thread about a homemade bullet feeder, case feeder yes.
The place to look is the end of the forum, page 13 and work your way forward. About 4 or 5 pages of them. That's where all of the archive toggled threads are. Toggled threads don't go into the archive. |
| Will do I have been searching the net pretty good and have watched and re watched videos on YouTube about people that have maid their own I believe there used to be a company that made just the parts and you assembled but I don't think they are around anymore.. I have all the electronics ordered and once I get the flip figured out 100% I'm golden will post pics to follow |
| Can you post a picture of your flip area? Also what RPM is your motor? I made a couple homemade ones but I have 1/4" lexan as the flip grove part to make it adjustable with slotted bolt holes. I have mine angled at 45* and they work fine. There's some good videos on YouTube of homemade ones that show the flipper also. I don't recall any going into detail but it wasn't too hard to closely duplicate and work from there. |
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Can you post a picture of your flip area? Also what RPM is your motor? I made a couple homemade ones but I have 1/4" lexan as the flip grove part to make it adjustable with slotted bolt holes. I have mine angled at 45* and they work fine. There's some good videos on YouTube of homemade ones that show the flipper also. I don't recall any going into detail but it wasn't too hard to closely duplicate and work from there. Here is my flip areas 1st seems to work the best but bucket still needs to have high angle Attached File Attached File That flip area seems to make the bullets want to flip end over nose and fall out even with the unit placed at 45deg or so Attached File This flip seems to let the nose of the bullet slide out and then fall out of the bucket I have 3 other ones that don't seem to work either with different angles and depths I plan on using a 6rpm motor that I can turn down motor speed if I would like and micro switches to turn the unit on and off should all be here this week I am not really making this adjustable as I mainly only load 9mm so just want this to work with 9mm bullets |
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From the pictures it looks like your top plate rotates counterclockwise? The groove is backwards in depth of that's the case. The start of the groove should be the deepest then be an 'up ramp' like the second example then transition to the flip ramp that I think is the bucket itself just out of the picture. You also might need a ledge on the outside of the bucket to support the bullet tip while it's horizontal. I'll post pictures of what I mean in a little bit.
Sorry it took a while, tinypic has converted to an ad-spam site and I had to find another site for the second picture. I placed a bullet nose down in every spot to show the way the tip drops down, then transitions horizontal, then flips. You can see my short 'up ramp' in the clear lexan part. The feeder is at a 45* angle with the apex being near the position where the bullet is horizontal. In the top down picture you can see how far our the bullets extend from thier pocket during flipping (these are 55gr .224), 9mm of course will be shorter, but you'll still likely need a ledge to support them on the outside of the bucket so they don't fall on the floor. Just follow the contour of your ramp with MDF either double side taped or glued to the outside of the bucket. 
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| You said you have your machine tipped at 45 deg? I will cut and try backwards tonight and see how that works just want to make sure I can keep the bullet from sliding out of plate I think I need to get and make a new top plate and I don't think my holes are 100% like yours look to be |
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I believe there used to be a company that made just the parts and you assembled but I don't think they are around anymore.. Sounds like you are talking about Entirely Crimson. He got into a patent dispute with Mr Bulletfeeder, and was required to take down all his offerings in that product area, as I understand it. |
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Sounds like you are talking about Entirely Crimson. He got into a patent dispute with Mr Bulletfeeder, and was required to take down all his offerings in that product area, as I understand it. Ya that sounds like the company. I'm sure with the wisdom here I can figure something out for my own use |
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From the pictures it looks like your top plate rotates counterclockwise? The groove is backwards in depth of that's the case. The start of the groove should be the deepest then be an 'up ramp' like the second example then transition to the flip ramp that I think is the bucket itself just out of the picture. You also might need a ledge on the outside of the bucket to support the bullet tip while it's horizontal. I'll post pictures of what I mean in a little bit. Sorry it took a while, tinypic has converted to an ad-spam site and I had to find another site for the second picture. I placed a bullet nose down in every spot to show the way the tip drops down, then transitions horizontal, then flips. You can see my short 'up ramp' in the clear lexan part. The feeder is at a 45* angle with the apex being near the position where the bullet is horizontal. In the top down picture you can see how far our the bullets extend from thier pocket during flipping (these are 55gr .224), 9mm of course will be shorter, but you'll still likely need a ledge to support them on the outside of the bucket so they don't fall on the floor. Just follow the contour of your ramp with MDF either double side taped or glued to the outside of the bucket. http://i63.tinypic.com/xntd0m.jpg https://i.imgsafe.org/15c1554215.jpg Ok I just have spent a few more hours working on this this afternoon I think I am having two things cause me issues 1st I still can't get the flip groove right 2nd is I think my rotating plate needs to be tighter clearance maybe a slick plastic and not wood This is where I have ended up today working on this. My motor controller showed up in the mail today and the rest is supposed to come tomorrow. I cut a 2x4 at 45deg and mounted my base to it and I cut a grove similar to what you suggested starting deep then tapering up and out. but it still seems that the bullets get stuck in my upper plate I think my slots are too large for the 9mm bullet , so I plan on getting some plastic this weekend and 10mm router bit and cut holes. so far I have about 8 hours just in the trial stage here are pictures from today if you see anything to help let me know! Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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I want to thank you again Wil, With your help I have got this little project going, I now have consistent flip with all my bullets and once I got it going I thought to myself why didnt I think of that sooner. I have a few videos of it working and flipping, I am waiting a few weeks to buy the Hornady die and then I will figure out my tube/drop system. I also just cut a 2x4 to get it mounted and my electronics are just stuffed in the bottom of the bucket I mainly wanted to get this all working as a proof of concept and then I will make it "pretty"
Here are some pictures Attached File This is the stack of circles I made to test and re test and figure out cuts and everything Attached File |
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