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Posted: 11/6/2016 4:55:35 PM EDT
Was reloading some 308 plinking ammo and started to get some primers hanging out. I could feel it catch but it didnt feel that bad.
The only issue ive ever had with this press is the shell holder being to tight so i back the bolt off a 1/4 turn and a few rounds later it jammed up soild. Wouldnt move , looked for 20 min tring to see the problem but it just wouldnt move, so knowing i was gonna probley break something i pushed it threw and started taking it all apart. Found the primer lever and spring bent. The ram and everything seems to work fine now 
1. Any idea how it happened 2. The lever and spring should be all i need to replace right? |
So i found the culprite. The primer indexing block and arm must have had a fight. :/ Not sure how it happened but the arm dug a big grove in that plastic block. I tried to bend the tap on the arm it self but its not enough. Didnt want to break it either. So i shimmed behind the block till i got the primer wheel and pin to line up. Again, not sure why or how it did what it did but its up and running now and will just watch it to see if its a problem still
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So i found the culprite. The primer indexing block and arm must have had a fight. :/ Not sure how it happened but the arm dug a big grove in that plastic block. I tried to bend the tap on the arm it self but its not enough. Didnt want to break it either. So i shimmed behind the block till i got the primer wheel and pin to line up. Again, not sure why or how it did what it did but its up and running now and will just watch it to see if its a problem still http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/ARsR4ME/20161106_155903_zpsyizohnmj.jpg Wow! That looks horrible! I have had several issues with the indexing spring wearing out and Dillon got tired of replacing them, so they sent me a whole new primer system. Looks like the indexing block will need to be replaced as well. The disc looks like it's in tact, so you just might need the indexing arm, indexing block, and spring, to be up and running again. Dillon will cover all them with your warranty. ETA: I'm not judging your method but did you not feel the added resistance when going on the up stroke? You never need to force the ram that hard when cases are properly lubricated. |
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Wow! That looks horrible! I have had several issues with the indexing spring wearing out and Dillon got tired of replacing them, so they sent me a whole new primer system. Looks like the indexing block will need to be replaced as well. The disc looks like it's in tact, so you just might need the indexing arm, indexing block, and spring, to be up and running again. Dillon will cover all them with your warranty. ETA: I'm not judging your method but did you not feel the added resistance when going on the up stroke? You never need to force the ram that hard when cases are properly lubricated. Quoted:
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So i found the culprite. The primer indexing block and arm must have had a fight. :/ Not sure how it happened but the arm dug a big grove in that plastic block. I tried to bend the tap on the arm it self but its not enough. Didnt want to break it either. So i shimmed behind the block till i got the primer wheel and pin to line up. Again, not sure why or how it did what it did but its up and running now and will just watch it to see if its a problem still http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/ARsR4ME/20161106_155903_zpsyizohnmj.jpg Wow! That looks horrible! I have had several issues with the indexing spring wearing out and Dillon got tired of replacing them, so they sent me a whole new primer system. Looks like the indexing block will need to be replaced as well. The disc looks like it's in tact, so you just might need the indexing arm, indexing block, and spring, to be up and running again. Dillon will cover all them with your warranty. ETA: I'm not judging your method but did you not feel the added resistance when going on the up stroke? You never need to force the ram that hard when cases are properly lubricated. Yep, started to catch and pop when pushing the handle forwarrd. Was tring to figure it out but it binded up. I never thought to look at that primer block. Still not sure how it happened. |
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"... I could feel it catch but it didnt feel that bad. ..."
When something feels different, stop and investigate remember, the machine uses a lot of leverage, so what feels like a little, may be a lot. Call Dillon Monday morning, and they'll send you a bunch of new parts |
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It's hard to tell from the above picture, but is your fail-safe bracket bent up (the black bracket attached to the priming system that the fail-safe rod goes through)?
The small rivet/tab that goes through that bracket helps keep the spring and indexing arm spring guide down in their channel. If that bracket is bent up from level, it's possible that it allowed the arm and spring to come out too far. I can see the spring is kinked like this happened. |
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Yep, started to catch and pop when pushing the handle forwarrd. Was tring to figure it out but it binded up. I never thought to look at that primer block. Still not sure how it happened. Quoted:
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So i found the culprite. The primer indexing block and arm must have had a fight. :/ Not sure how it happened but the arm dug a big grove in that plastic block. I tried to bend the tap on the arm it self but its not enough. Didnt want to break it either. So i shimmed behind the block till i got the primer wheel and pin to line up. Again, not sure why or how it did what it did but its up and running now and will just watch it to see if its a problem still http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/ARsR4ME/20161106_155903_zpsyizohnmj.jpg Wow! That looks horrible! I have had several issues with the indexing spring wearing out and Dillon got tired of replacing them, so they sent me a whole new primer system. Looks like the indexing block will need to be replaced as well. The disc looks like it's in tact, so you just might need the indexing arm, indexing block, and spring, to be up and running again. Dillon will cover all them with your warranty. ETA: I'm not judging your method but did you not feel the added resistance when going on the up stroke? You never need to force the ram that hard when cases are properly lubricated. Yep, started to catch and pop when pushing the handle forwarrd. Was tring to figure it out but it binded up. I never thought to look at that primer block. Still not sure how it happened. I started on a 650 as well and made A LOT of mistakes in the beginning, so don't feel bad. The good thing is you didn't set off your primers and in the case of the 650, it can chain detonate them. As mentioned above, call Dillon on Monday and they'll square you away. Don't try and repair those parts, as they'll eventually give out, causing you further headaches in the future. Dillon designed some of those parts to fail, because a cheap part is easier to replace than a more expensive one and trust me, I've had numerous primer return springs fail on me so now I keep at least 5 springs on me at any given time. |
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