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Posted: 9/9/2016 1:34:31 PM EDT
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Perfectly normal, your dies may be a little on the tight side which I think is a good thing.
RMR bullets are plated lead and lead bullet charge weights are in order, not jacketed. That's why they are a little fatter than jacketed bullet dimensions. Simply remove the barrel (field strip your handgun) and use the chamber as your gage. As long as each round drops in and falls out freely you are good to go. 6.0 grains of Power Pistol seems hot to me. I don't have any manuals to reference at this moment, but light charges of fast burning powders are in order. Look at lead bullet load data around 800 to 825 fps. |
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I wouldn't worry if you are a little on the warm side of lead bullet data with those plated bullets. The 45acp is perfectly happy with 11 to 12 BHN plain lead bullets so I seriously doubt you'll have any problems with the plated bullets. What I'm saying is that I wouldn't pull any if you are in safe jacketed data levels.
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I would not want Hornady one shot lube inside the case with the powder. A little fat at .453" Do they fit the barrel. http://www.saami.org/PubResources/CC_Drawings/Pistol/45%20Automatic.pdf |
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Perfectly normal, your dies may be a little on the tight side which I think is a good thing. RMR bullets are plated lead and lead bullet charge weights are in order, not jacketed. That's why they are a little fatter than jacketed bullet dimensions. Simply remove the barrel (field strip your handgun) and use the chamber as your gage. As long as each round drops in and falls out freely you are good to go. 6.0 grains of Power Pistol seems hot to me. I don't have any manuals to reference at this moment, but light charges of fast burning powders are in order. Look at lead bullet load data around 800 to 825 fps. RMR used to only offer plated and cast bullets, but they do FMJ now. 230gr FMJ .45 Their plated ones are copper colored, and the FMJs are brass colored as shown. I loaded 3000 of their FMJ 124gr 9mm a few months ago |
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6.0 grains of Power Pistol seems hot to me. I don't have any manuals to reference at this moment, but light charges of fast burning powders are in order. Look at lead bullet load data around 800 to 825 fps. nope, that's middle of the spectrum for power pistol / 230gr Power Pistol is a medium burning powder, slower than Unique or Universal http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?page=/reloaders/powderlist.aspx&type=1&powderid=8&cartridge=35 |
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Lyman's starting load is 6.4gr of PP, Hornady says 5.x. Can't remember off the top of my head but it was almost a full grain below Lyman's. I'm thinking once I find something that gets me around 850fps I'll stop. I don't see any need to go hotter than that.
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Lyman's starting load is 6.4gr of PP, Hornady says 5.x. Can't remember off the top of my head but it was almost a full grain below Lyman's. I'm thinking once I find something that gets me around 850fps I'll stop. I don't see any need to go hotter than that. Thanks again for the help. That is why I like the Hornady so much. You will find that Hornady gives you a much wider range of data than most other manuals. This is also why having several to choose from is good. The Lyman in this particular case is giving you a safe starting load. What if you wanted to go lighter? You wouldn't know. Hornady is telling you that you can start as low as 5.x (just quoting your post) which is very helpful. Motor |
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That is why I like the Hornady so much. You will find that Hornady gives you a much wider range of data than most other manuals. This is also why having several to choose from is good. The Lyman in this particular case is giving you a safe starting load. What if you wanted to go lighter? You wouldn't know. Hornady is telling you that you can start as low as 5.x (just quoting your post) which is very helpful. Motor Quoted:
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Lyman's starting load is 6.4gr of PP, Hornady says 5.x. Can't remember off the top of my head but it was almost a full grain below Lyman's. I'm thinking once I find something that gets me around 850fps I'll stop. I don't see any need to go hotter than that. Thanks again for the help. That is why I like the Hornady so much. You will find that Hornady gives you a much wider range of data than most other manuals. This is also why having several to choose from is good. The Lyman in this particular case is giving you a safe starting load. What if you wanted to go lighter? You wouldn't know. Hornady is telling you that you can start as low as 5.x (just quoting your post) which is very helpful. Motor Couldn't agree more. I need to pick up another manual just to have as a reference. While Hornady will make you use more test loads, I love that it gives a better range, especially since I'm still new to reloading. |
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I agree with others that as long as the loads are fitting the case gauge/chamber the slight buldges are more or less normal with some bullets .
Lube isn't at all necessary with 45acp and carbide dies . Some pistol calibers (like 44mag) will give you a bit more case life and less trimming with a bit of lube but 45acp cases are only slightly sized and last nearly forever (and never need trimming) . |
| When I first started loading 9mm, I was getting bulges like that. I was able to alleviate them by belling the case a little more. Because of the poor bell, the bullets were being seated a tiny bit off center, causing the bulge on a side. Yours don't appear to be bulged all the way around, which would indicate a more normal condition, and some appear bulged more than others, so I would see if increasing the bell a little helps. |
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Lyman's starting load is 6.4gr of PP, Hornady says 5.x. Can't remember off the top of my head but it was almost a full grain below Lyman's. I'm thinking once I find something that gets me around 850fps I'll stop. I don't see any need to go hotter than that. Thanks again for the help. Disregard - was thinking of a different powder. Speer shows a max load of 8.0, Hornady a max of 7.6. 6.0 is well below where I would start with that powder/bullet combination. Possibly have cycling issues in a Glock. Hornady's 5.6 isn't really a start load, that's just how they fill out the table. Their max is 7.6 so you should start at 6.8. (7.6 x 90%) |
I'd save the power pistol for some hotter loads. I like to use pp in p+ loads for the 45acp. One of my favorite loads, a home swaged 225gr jacketed hp with 7.5gr of pp.
You're seeing the bullet/case bulge because of the factory expanders that come with the die sets. Most sets unless otherwise stated are designed for jacketed bullets. .451" bullets in your 45acp die set. The expander opens the case mouth enough to accept the bullet and still leave enough neck tension to firmly hold the bullet in place. A factory expander ball next to a custom expander that's made for lead/cast/plated/coated bullets. 
MFG's do put out expanders made for the larger/longer lead/plated/coated bullets. Companies like rcbs have a cowboy action line & lyman puts out a m-die. The lyman m-die can be bought as a stand alone item/ bought by itself. It's designed to start the bullet straighter in the case (no scraping the sides of the bullet), expand the case further/deeper and a little wider then their traditional jacketed expander counterparts. 
Good luck & enjoy your glock |
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