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Posted: 5/24/2016 9:48:04 PM EDT
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I tested some rounds today using 220gr FN and H4895 in my pre-crossbolt marlin.
I was very happy with 33gr and 33.5gr. Using the factory sights I shot a 1.5" and 2.5" group at 65 yds. Very huntable. And on a side note, I just love the feeling i get when I find a load that works! Now for questions... All my load development before today has been with a scope. Even on my "scopeless" AR's I mounted a scope for load development and then removed it and went back to flip up's or red dot's. Those of you that develop loads using Marlin type factory sights, is there anything you do other than shooting more rounds to ensure you didn't just "get lucky" for 3 or 5 rds? Those of you that load for 35rem, is there a powder that you have found provides more velocity while providing great accuracy? I'm happy with the accuracy of H4895 but according to Hodgdon's data, it provides the most velocity in their line up. Am I chasing something(velocity) that's pointless? Thanks! |
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ckyle...
The absolute best source of info I have found regarding 35 has been on the marlin owners forum. Some guys there have done extensive testing on the 35, at both regular factory speeds and at a somewhat elevated speed, and tested expansion and penetration at ranges to 200 yards. Long story short, strongly consider loading Remington's 200 round nosed soft points. http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/35-remington/ I used to shoot a marlin 1894 in 44 mag. With the regular iron sights it was a 4-6" gun at 100 yards. Installing a williams peep rear immediately took it down to about 1.5". I never loaded for max velocity. I cannot answer that. You don't really need max speed with the 35. That big ol chunk of fast expanding lead works just fine at regular ol' 35 speeds. You don't need a special routine, but a single group means squat. try firing several groups, of at least five rounds each. When you have three or four groups, five rounds each, that measure 2", then you've got a 2" gun |
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ckyle... The absolute best source of info I have found regarding 35 has been on the marlin owners forum. Some guys there have done extensive testing on the 35, at both regular factory speeds and at a somewhat elevated speed, and tested expansion and penetration at ranges to 200 yards. Long story short, strongly consider loading Remington's 200 round nosed soft points. http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/35-remington/ I used to shoot a marlin 1894 in 44 mag. With the regular iron sights it was a 4-6" gun at 100 yards. Installing a williams peep rear immediately took it down to about 1.5". I never loaded for max velocity. I cannot answer that. You don't really need max speed with the 35. That big ol chunk of fast expanding lead works just fine at regular ol' 35 speeds. You don't need a special routine, but a single group means squat. try firing several groups, of at least five rounds each. When you have three or four groups, five rounds each, that measure 2", then you've got a 2" gun I think I'm just going to have to shoot a lot to know for sure what I have. I was at 65yds, so 100 would've been 4"-6". I really want to use the original sights, they just suck so bad! I've read good things about the 200gr Remington's. I can't justify why I want to shoot the 220's other than I just do. Unfortunately they are expensive and rare. I think I'm going to shoot 3 shot group's( I know, I know) to keep from using up my bullets. I'll never shoot more than 2 in succession at an animal, anyways. |
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Yah... .35's have a certain appeal. As a teenager I looked at factory ballistics tables for ammo so much I pretty much new the ft/lbs of energy and trajectory for damned near every cartridge on the table. Of course, velocity ruled and any cartridge with speed showed great energy.
The mid-bores (.35) just don't have speed. But they DO have honking big bullets and momentum. The .35 Rem just flat out kills stuff so well, even better than any Ft/lbs energy and/or velocity numbers might suggest. For this same reason I bought a .350 Rem Mag for moose, don't own a .358 Win (yet) but would kill for a 356 .... Start shooting stuff. You'll be really impressed with the 35. it has an advantage many bullets don't. 308 win, for example, uses the same bullet that the manufacturer makes for 300 savage, 30-06, 300 win mag and 300 WSM. Its a generic sorta do-it-all bullet. The 35, in contrast, uses a bullet that the maker designed and made for one cartridge - the .35 Rem. Those 200 .35's are 'dialed in' for those specific impact speeds. Hit a 20 lb porcupine with a 35 rem and you'll blow his ass clear outta a hemlock tree, and there'll be a smoking hole in him you could pass a golf ball through.... Fro |
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Nothing you can share with the group? 
I keep coming across 35 rem marlins and have been strangely attracted to them... Trying to learn this interesting cartridge... Quoted:
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OP...........I sent you an IM......... Nothing you can share with the group?
I keep coming across 35 rem marlins and have been strangely attracted to them... Trying to learn this interesting cartridge... I was trying to give him some ammo face-to-face ;we're both in Alabama.I used .35 Remington Contender for Indiana whitetails and learned some things.i.e., the Remington SJHP bullets were very accurate (1 1/2" groups/100 yds/4X scope) and they were quick killers on deer. |
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Start shooting stuff. You'll be really impressed with the 35. it has an advantage many bullets don't. 308 win, for example, uses the same bullet that the manufacturer makes for 300 savage, 30-06, 300 win mag and 300 WSM. Its a generic sorta do-it-all bullet. The 35, in contrast, uses a bullet that the maker designed and made for one cartridge - the .35 Rem. Those 200 .35's are 'dialed in' for those specific impact speeds. Fro That's a good point that I hadn't thought about. |
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Hit a 20 lb porcupine with a 35 rem and you'll blow his ass clear outta a hemlock tree, and there'll be a smoking hole in him you could pass a gold ball throuhg.... Fro Hit a 5-lb porky with a 35 Whelen at 5 ft and there is not terribly much left to eat. Didn't taste too bad though. |
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ckyle... The absolute best source of info I have found regarding 35 has been on the marlin owners forum. Some guys there have done extensive testing on the 35, at both regular factory speeds and at a somewhat elevated speed, and tested expansion and penetration at ranges to 200 yards. Long story short, strongly consider loading Remington's 200 round nosed soft points. http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/35-remington/ I used to shoot a marlin 1894 in 44 mag. With the regular iron sights it was a 4-6" gun at 100 yards. Installing a williams peep rear immediately took it down to about 1.5". I never loaded for max velocity. I cannot answer that. You don't really need max speed with the 35. That big ol chunk of fast expanding lead works just fine at regular ol' 35 speeds. You don't need a special routine, but a single group means squat. try firing several groups, of at least five rounds each. When you have three or four groups, five rounds each, that measure 2", then you've got a 2" gun Agree about that link as a great resource. The main guru on that site (moderator) has a go to load for 200 gr Core Lokts over IMR 3031. U can get some decent velocities with that powder for .35 Rem loads. |
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