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Posted: 3/4/2016 9:20:25 PM EDT
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I just got an RL 550B about 3 months after selling off my Hornady LNL. I have a few questions specific to the RL 550B:
-Do Dillon Pistol Size Dies require less force than other dies? My Hornady dies seem to be require considerable force to size and deprime even cases on their 3rd reload. Could this have anything to do with question 3? -It was suggested to me by Inline Fabrication that I should try to have a die in all 4 stations when sizing on the RL 550B. The person I spoke to suggested that doing otherwise could affect consistency. Any validity to this? -How does the Dillon Aluminum Roller Handle compare with the Inline Fabrication Ergo Roller Handle? I run the Ergo roller and it feels clunky despite its ergonomics. |
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I just got an RL 550B about 3 months after selling off my Hornady LNL. I have a few questions specific to the RL 550B: -Do Dillon Pistol Size Dies require less force than other dies? My Hornady dies seem to be require considerable force to size and deprime even cases on their 3rd reload. Could this have anything to do with question 3? -It was suggested to me by Inline Fabrication that I should try to have a die in all 4 stations when sizing on the RL 550B. The person I spoke to suggested that doing otherwise could affect consistency. Any validity to this? -How does the Dillon Aluminum Roller Handle compare with the Inline Fabrication Ergo Roller Handle? I run the Ergo roller and it feels clunky despite its ergonomics. I can only answer #2, I don't use Dillon dies or roller handles. If you want to extract all you can for consistent ammo use a single stage. The Dillon is very consistent using 3 stations for rifle or pistol loads. If you are concerned about this, put the third die in the last position to insure the die holder is more evenly loaded on the down stroke of the handle. The draw back to that is you have to put the bullet in on the same side you load a shell and pull the handle. |
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I have a 550 which I only load rifle rounds with and these were sized on a Rockchucker. I do load 44 mag on my Rockchucker with Hornady dies (no lube) and I don't think it takes that much effort. You do want all stations in operation when you adjust the powder measure. Otherwise the powder charge changes from 1 station in use to when all 4 when your loading. I have the Dillon Alum. roller handle that I like very much and never thought I needed something else. |
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Seating depth will be different with a case in station 1 vs not having a case in station 1.
Also, sizing can be a bit different if not seating a bullet at the same time. Ideally, you will make adjustments when all 4 stations (or 3) are loaded and in use. This will result in more consistent ammo. |
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To clarify, I reloaded over a thousand rounds after sizing them on my Rockchucker and priming, powdering, seating, and crimping on the RL 550B-No problem. Now, When I put the Hornady Size Die in Station 1 there were many times when it felt like the amount of force required to size would lead to breakage of the press. It was excessive for a straight walled case. Not even a 308 in or 30-06 require this much force to size on my Rock Chucker. I've been reloading since 89' so I think this is a valid question.
Are Dillon dies better-requiring less force- than others due to their construction and being designed for progressive machines or is it a wives tale? |
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2 questions:
are you using case lube? Are you wet tumbling the brass to get in shiny clean? Dillon dies do not require additional force. I too have heard about having brass in all four stations. In normal operation this is how the press is designed to run. I prefer the Dillon Aluminum roller handle. |
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All things aside..................
Different brand dies will "seem" smoother than others. IMHO Redding Titanium Carbide Dies are the smoothest on the market Dillon Carbide Dies are in second place I do not wet tumble, but I use Iosso case polish with corn cob media that is not that dirty. And, IMHO the IOSSO aids in smoother sizing of brass in all dies. Virgin or Wet Tumbled or Ultrasonic cleaned brass will size harder in general, and especially hang up on the powder funnel as the interior of the brass is so clean. When setting up rifle sizing dies on the Dillon is best to have cartridges at all stations, this so that the shell plate is stabilized equally. |
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To clarify, I reloaded over a thousand rounds after sizing them on my Rockchucker and priming, powdering, seating, and crimping on the RL 550B-No problem. Now, When I put the Hornady Size Die in Station 1 there were many times when it felt like the amount of force required to size would lead to breakage of the press. It was excessive for a straight walled case. Not even a 308 in or 30-06 require this much force to size on my Rock Chucker. I've been reloading since 89' so I think this is a valid question. Are Dillon dies better-requiring less force- than others due to their construction and being designed for progressive machines or is it a wives tale? what are you resizing ? are you using a case lube ? Big difference between 38 specials, and rifle cases,......or even 44 magnum the amount of force to resize a case should be about the same, no matter what brand of resizer die. |
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Different kinds of dies can require different amounts of force for resizing, back when I only had one reloader, a single stage Lyman, I had a set of Lyman carbide dies in 9mm, I can't remember why I bought them, but for some reason I bought a set of Lee carbide dies in 9mm. In the same single stage press, the Lee dies easily took twice as much force to resize as the Lyman, the difference really stood out. I have no idea why that was, but the difference was obvious. |
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