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2/26/2016 12:04:12 AM EDT
I am looking for an economical bullet to use in reloading my .300 AAC brass. Looking for a plinker, nothing fancy. What are some options?



Can I use 30 caliber bullets or do they need to be specified for the .300 AAC rifle? I'm new, and confused. :)




I was looking at these - http://www.acmebullet.com/bullets-reloading-brass/30-CAL-Hard-Cast-Lead-Bullets but I'm not sure if they will work.




Looking for some direction.... thanks.
2/26/2016 12:34:35 AM EDT
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300 blk used standard 30 caliber .308 bullets. They are seated with "the .250 ogive rule" for proper feeding from a 5.56 mag.



The various 147 gr FMJ pulls are pretty much standard for a cheap plinking load.




For a cheap accurate bullet, the 125 gr Speer TNT is hard to beat.




Another option is the Extreme plated 150 gr .308 bullet.




If you don't know where to order from ask in the tacked "where to find" thread.




Asking in this thread will get this thread locked, that's why we have a tacked thread so it's all in one place.









Then there the home cast and powder coated bullets some of us make for very little.








In the third post I describe the "the .250 ogive rule".
2/26/2016 12:42:48 AM EDT
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Thank you, very much! Cheers!
2/26/2016 12:45:06 AM EDT
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Welcome to the Reloading Forum, we have a good bunch of guys here that will help guide you.

 



I just got here first.
2/26/2016 9:59:42 AM EDT
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There is also the Zombie13 123gr coated bullets as well for ~$0.08/bullet. You won't see the accuracy of say a Hornady 150gr FMJ, but they are quite a bit cheaper. I've gotten the Hornady's for around $0.19/bullet in the past. PM me or ask in the "where to find" thread if you can't locate these.
2/26/2016 12:20:47 PM EDT
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I like the MBC coated bullets.  

I've also found that I don't go "plinking" much with my .300 BLK - I end up shooting my 5.56 upper when I'm just looking to poke holes in paper.
2/26/2016 9:34:44 PM EDT
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For supers I love the speer TNT 125gr. They are flat base and hellova accurate.

For subs I cast my own, but have bought the MBC coated 245gr and they performed great.

For my "home defense" round I shoot the Barnes tac-tx 110gr. It has devastating ballistics gel performance.

You can shoot anything 30cal you want, as long as the profile of the bullet is able to load properly with the AR feed ramp (read small meplat).
2/26/2016 10:52:23 PM EDT
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I like 147 M80 FMJ-BT bullets for plinking. Cost about $80-$90 per 500. They load easily being boat tails and shoot and feed well. In a 16" barrel they travel at 1900-1950 fps using H110 at about 16.5 grains. Search for M80 147 FMJ-BT bullets.
2/27/2016 1:03:35 AM EDT
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Thanks you guys.... this is great. I've been meaning to pay for a membership here and learn the site for a while now (for some reason I have a hard time with the layout here- odd cause I'm pretty techie) and I finally got to it. I find the knowledge and level or 'professionalism' here is a step above some of the other places around the web.



Anyways... Great info!!! I'm super excited to research some of the info about the bullets mentioned just in this thread. My Dillon dies just showed up yesterday, and I want to load some of these asap.




For home defense what do you guys prefer? I see mention of the Barnes (I use their mid range magnums in my revolvers), which are supersonic. I thought supersonic were a bit risky for home defense? I'm new to rifles so excuse that if it's a dumb question!




I have a suppressor getting out of jail any day now, and have a fully worked CZ SP01 set a side just for the can and home defense. I built the .300 as a home defense rifle to go along with my CZ.




Since the can would be on the CZ (it could be on the .300) what load would be quietest .300 load? Sub or super?  




I find it hard to understand why shoving a 200 grain sub-sonic in my larger rifle would be better than 19 9mm 147 grain rounds in my pistol. Taking into account of course that I may be half a sleep when I have to grab and, God forbid, fire it.




Super stoked to be here....!!



2/27/2016 1:21:31 AM EDT
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Barnes TAC-TX, designed for 300 blk. Best SD or hunting bullet. (super sonic) They are expensive, but shoot great.




BTW, why a plain brown avatar? One of the perks is having a distinctive avatar.






 
2/27/2016 1:49:17 AM EDT
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^^^ That... is ..... nice!



So you're OK shooting a 2000+ FPS load in the house? No worry of penetrating the neighbors homes or ??




The avatar... I tried for an hour to upload something cool, my .300 AR, and I couldn't get the size limit met. Lowest I could reduce the size was 32 KB.
2/27/2016 2:33:26 AM EDT
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So you're OK shooting a 2000+ FPS load in the house? No worry of penetrating the neighbors homes or ??





The avatar... I tried for an hour to upload something cool, my .300 AR, and I couldn't get the size limit met. Lowest I could reduce the size was 32 KB.

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Go to Team, there is an Avatar help thread there.




Here it is, http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_75/824206_Official_Avatar_Clean_Up_Thread.html
2/27/2016 10:38:27 AM EDT
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Barnes TAC-TX, designed for 300 blk. Best SD or hunting bullet. (super sonic) They are expensive, but shoot great.


BTW, why a plain brown avatar? One of the perks is having a distinctive avatar.


 
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You definitely want supersonic for home defense. Those really fast, light rounds explode when they hit a target, that's why they are so good. Notice special forces and police use ARs for breaching.

The Barnes is by far the best. I spent a while looking into the round for home defense and ultimately decided on it based on reviews. Here is the ballistic gel video I talked about earlier. It hits the target and creates a huge wound cavity. It will demolish a deer too.

You definitely do not want subsonic for home defense. Subsonic rounds will go right through the target. In fact, a lot of states have put out warning about hunting with 300blkout subsonic rounds because they are not ethical (unless they have a HP to expand).

Welcome to the board, there are some awesome guys on here.

2/27/2016 7:43:13 PM EDT
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Thanks for the welcome.





What are the .300 AAC sub loads best used for?







What's the consensus around here regarding loading your own defense rounds for the defense rife?


 



*edit* wow.... @ that video!
2/27/2016 8:19:21 PM EDT
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What's the consensus around here regarding loading your own defense rounds for the defense rife?

 



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Can you explain to the jury why you felt the need to make those extra deadly cartridges?

 
2/27/2016 9:09:29 PM EDT
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Thanks for the welcome.

What are the .300 AAC sub loads best used for?


What's the consensus around here regarding loading your own defense rounds for the defense rife?
 

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Can you explain to the jury why you felt the need to make those extra deadly cartridges?  


Sure can. I used the best round available to stop the person that may rape and murder my wife and daughter. No different that going to the store and buying "critical defense" bullets meant to have the best stopping power.

I also plan to hunt with these. The goal is always the most ethical kill, which ever round does that is the best round to use.

I have more confidence in my reloads than any factory round. I am extremely anal with the components that I use and every round is precision made for each rifle I shoot. You'll never have that from a factory.
2/27/2016 11:54:08 PM EDT
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Please don't derail this thread debating factory/handloads for self defence.



If you feel you must discuss this, please start a new thread.
2/27/2016 11:56:50 PM EDT
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Agreed! ^^^



I saw the email notification come through and was thinking to myself.... likely another reply to a can of worms I should have never opened.
2/28/2016 8:48:31 AM EDT
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What are the .300 AAC sub loads best used for?


What's the consensus around here regarding loading your own defense rounds for the defense rife?
 

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300BLK Subsonic rounds are primarily intended for use with a suppressor and CAN be used for self-defence/hunting at very close ranges. The subsonic rounds effectively turn your rifle into a 45ACP carbine, treat it accordingly. JMHO YMMV

2/28/2016 2:42:15 PM EDT
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I recently bought 1K of M80 bullets, mostly for loading M80-ish 7.62 NATO rounds, but I plan to use some for Blackout as well.  But I'm frustrated that I can't find lighter bullets in bulk.
2/29/2016 1:50:33 AM EDT
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<snip>Use the tacked thread for "where to find" answers.



I hope this wasn't promoting your business, as that can lead to a ban from this site.




dryflash3
2/29/2016 9:40:57 AM EDT
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Various people have reported good results with .310 pulls also. They have occasionally been available cheap.

Last time I got 100 to test, and they sold out before I could stock up so they are just sitting.
3/3/2016 2:58:14 PM EDT
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Picked up 100 rounds of the Barnes 110 grain. I'll shoot a magazine to make sure it functions and keep two mags for home defense. I'll build up the supply as time goes by.



Thanks for the suggestion!
3/3/2016 4:19:14 PM EDT
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Yup, I got 10k of the .310 pull downs for just under $80 per k at the SAR show in Phoenix a few years ago. Out of my 10" barrel they are minute of beer can.. Just have to download the powder charge for the bigger dia bullet.
3/3/2016 5:27:50 PM EDT
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Shoot a couple of 2 liters or milk jugs of water, I've heard they explode like crazy with this round but have never tested it.

Mine shot very well out of my SBR. As good as I can see with a red dot at 50yrds. I'm upgrading one rifle to a 1-4 and plan to do more in depth accuracy testing for hunting (hopefully by year end).
3/3/2016 5:34:40 PM EDT
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^^ I will do that for sure, and record it! I just got my Magpul flip up sights and red dot installed. Need to zero it and I'll be good to go.





3/6/2016 3:19:46 PM EDT
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There is also the Zombie13 123gr coated bullets as well for ~$0.08/bullet. You won't see the accuracy of say a Hornady 150gr FMJ, but they are quite a bit cheaper. I've gotten the Hornady's for around $0.19/bullet in the past. PM me or ask in the "where to find" thread if you can't locate these.
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I'm liking these, and the price. Do you know how these compare to Acme or MBC?




I may just pick up some stuff for my .357 loadings as well!....
3/6/2016 11:22:23 PM EDT
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Be careful with those coated bullets. I was getting leading from some of the highly touted ones and I was even running them subsonic.
3/6/2016 11:29:03 PM EDT
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Excuse the dumb question....  Does leading just make a mess to clean up or will it build to the point of causing issues after a couple hundred rounds at the range?
3/7/2016 1:27:35 AM EDT
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Both of those and accuracy will be lousy.
3/7/2016 1:08:14 PM EDT
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Shall I post another thread about leading using the coated bullets? It seems they come recommended in this thread.... confused!
3/7/2016 2:52:22 PM EDT
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Cast bullets have a lot of variables and you need to get them all correct to have success.




They have to fit your bore to not lead, then need the proper lube, coating, or powder coating.




There is a difference between what venders sell as as "coated" and the powder coat baked on polymer jacket handloaders are doing at home.




Posters say "coated" and you really don't know which they mean.









Regular lube bullets work fine for me, I size them to .310.









Powder coated is less messy and is easier to get no leading. Best done to bullets you cast yourself. Bullet on the right is the same one in the top pic.








Bullet on the right. I use it in 7.62x39 and 300 blk, just sized different.
3/7/2016 2:55:25 PM EDT
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300BLK Subsonic rounds are primarily intended for use with a suppressor and CAN be used for self-defence/hunting at very close ranges. The subsonic rounds effectively turn your rifle into a 45ACP carbine, treat it accordingly. JMHO YMMV

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Thanks for the welcome.

What are the .300 AAC sub loads best used for?


What's the consensus around here regarding loading your own defense rounds for the defense rife?
 

*edit* wow.... @ that video!



300BLK Subsonic rounds are primarily intended for use with a suppressor and CAN be used for self-defence/hunting at very close ranges. The subsonic rounds effectively turn your rifle into a 45ACP carbine, treat it accordingly. JMHO YMMV



Yes, like a suppressed 44spl or 45acp rifle, but with one major difference - ACCURACY.  I get about 1MOA at 100 and about 3MOA at 200 yards with the 208AMAX, AA1680, a 6x scope, and a 762sdn-6 can.  

Several of my friends had John's guns and old AAC suppressed Ruger 77/44 rifles and all would shoot about 4-5" at 100 yards.  You're talking about a pistol bullet vs a rifle bullet.  

Regardless of terminal effects, the rifle bullet is typically going to be more accurate at distance.
3/7/2016 2:57:44 PM EDT
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And you don't want to lead-up your expensive suppressor that, being a rifle suppressor, probably isn't user-servicable.  You should see the garbage that I chip out of my .22lr suppressor.
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