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10/30/2015 1:32:57 PM EDT
Did my first batch of shake and bake powder coat this morning and if they shoot good no more regular lubeing for me. Do you us jacketed or plain lead loads? Did 50 200 and 50 230 grain 45 acp in harbor freight red work like a charm.
10/30/2015 1:41:45 PM EDT
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keep us posted, I have been looking into this for 45.
10/30/2015 1:42:58 PM EDT
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I normally do lead data. A cast or pc'd bullet tends to travel faster than a similar jacketed one.

When I do jacketed data in the absence of lead bullet data I just start low at the minimum and have had no issues.
10/30/2015 2:13:26 PM EDT
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Use cast data, same as you would if you were loaded plated.
10/30/2015 2:56:39 PM EDT
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If you go to the Berrys website and look at their plated bullet load recommendations, they say you can load their plated rounds to FMJ velocities, which I have for several years now.  


http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-How_do_I_load_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx

For powder coated, I would start with lead loads and work up using a chronograph while checking accuracy.  I would stop at the point any excessive leading showed up, or when velocity and accuracy were at correct levels.  I have done this very thing with moly coated bullets.

10/30/2015 3:37:45 PM EDT
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I use HF red and ASBB shake and bake method. There is a forum dedicated to "coatings and alternatives" on the cast boolit forum.

PC is basically a non messy non smoking alternative to conventional lubes. With that being said it is becoming evident that when using PC it is possible to get away with using a little softer alloy. This seems especially true in pistol and large bore calibers.

For 45acp you should be more than OK with 12bhn alloy. I used to have to use 15bhn for my 9mms. Now I'm using 12bhn with PC.

I used to use 16bhn for gas checked 30cal. Now 12bhn gas checked is working fine.

My 41 magnum Blackhawk always lead fouled. Not to the point of being a problem but more than normal. With PC it shoots clean.

PC does not make your bullets stronger so if you try to push them beyond the strength of the alloy you will have problems.

Motor
10/30/2015 3:46:15 PM EDT
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I use HF red and ASBB shake and bake method. There is a forum dedicated to "coatings and alternatives" on the cast boolit forum.



PC is basically a non messy non smoking alternative to conventional lubes. With that being said it is becoming evident that when using PC it is possible to get away with using a little softer alloy. This seems especially true in pistol and large bore calibers.



For 45acp you should be more than OK with 12bhn alloy. I used to have to use 15bhn for my 9mms. Now I'm using 12bhn with PC.



I used to use 16bhn for gas checked 30cal. Now 12bhn gas checked is working fine.



My 41 magnum Blackhawk always lead fouled. Not to the point of being a problem but more than normal. With PC it shoots clean.



PC does not make your bullets stronger so if you try to push them beyond the strength of the alloy you will have problems.



Motor
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I visit there often, just happen to have a link. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?184-Coatings-and-Alternatives




Good folks over there, join up.
10/30/2015 5:31:44 PM EDT
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Got them all loaded hope to do some shooting this weekend but they have stroms coming this way. Used 5.2 of 231 for the 200 grain and 5.4 231 for the 230 grain. All sized to 452 that's what both of my 45s liked in straight wheel weight lead loads. We shall see but so far this is the cats pajamas. That's makes me sound as old as I am.
10/30/2015 6:24:30 PM EDT
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Got them all loaded hope to do some shooting this weekend but they have stroms coming this way. Used 5.2 of 231 for the 200 grain and 5.4 231 for the 230 grain. All sized to 452 that's what both of my 45s liked in straight wheel weight lead loads. We shall see but so far this is the cats pajamas. That's makes me sound as old as I am.
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Believe me your optimism is shared by many. I probably have 6 or 8 bottles of A-Lox sitting on the shelf that will very likely never be used.

I have already tore down all my dies that I used lubricated bullets with and cleaned all the sticky lube out of them. I don't plan on going back.

Motor
10/30/2015 8:43:39 PM EDT
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If you go to the Berrys website and look at their plated bullet load recommendations, they say you can load their plated rounds to FMJ velocities, which I have for several years now.  


http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-How_do_I_load_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx

For powder coated, I would start with lead loads and work up using a chronograph while checking accuracy.  I would stop at the point any excessive leading showed up, or when velocity and accuracy were at correct levels.  I have done this very thing with moly coated bullets.

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Use cast data, same as you would if you were loaded plated.



If you go to the Berrys website and look at their plated bullet load recommendations, they say you can load their plated rounds to FMJ velocities, which I have for several years now.  


http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-How_do_I_load_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx

For powder coated, I would start with lead loads and work up using a chronograph while checking accuracy.  I would stop at the point any excessive leading showed up, or when velocity and accuracy were at correct levels.  I have done this very thing with moly coated bullets.



Actually their web site says this.

We recommend using hard cast load data or start with mid-range jacketed data.  Make sure data is below 1250fps unless you are using a Thick-Plated bullet that we list

http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q21-c1-Load_Data_for_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx
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