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Posted: 10/25/2015 8:09:52 PM EDT
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First off, some have said that swaging is better. However, I reamed a bunch of 223. I know you removed some brass when reaming. But, have you had any issues with reamed brass?
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Comes down to equipment you are willing to buy, time to spend and personal preference.
Dryflash3 has a great inexpensive method to ream. I swage, because that is my preference, and mostly the tool that I bought and I am too cheap to buy another one. Both work and are "right" if done correctly. I have seen some brass that was definitely over reemed. Use a method that doesn't let you over do it. |
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I have done a bunch with the ol' RCBS swage tool.
I like to tell myself that beating the brass into submission actually toughens it up in a critical area, vs. just cutting away the brass and "weakening" it. But the reality is both methods are acceptable and work fine. |
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Quoted: First off, some have said that swaging is better. However, I reamed a bunch of 223. I know you removed some brass when reaming. But, have you had any issues with reamed brass? THANKS!!!  Swaging and reaming both work, having used both methods, I prefer to ream with the Hornady reamer chucked in a drill. It's a personal choice you can make for yourself.  If you go swager, do yourself a favor and get the Dillon swager, not the RCBS swage die. RCBS now has a comparable swager to the Dillon, I have no experiance with it.  The cases on the left were over reamed with a countersink that had no stop and an excessive amount of the primer pocket was removed. Cases on the right were correctly reamed with the Hornady reamer that has a built in stop so you can't over ream the pocket. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/253550/hornady-primer-pocket-reamer-cutter-head $10 8x32 hex coupling nut http://www.lowes.com/pd_423500-37672-884660_1z0v0z9+2z8vi__?productId=4582541&Ntt=8%2F32+coupling+nuts&pl=1¤tURL=%3FNtt%3D8%252F32%2Bcoupling%2Bnuts%26page%3D1&facetInfo=$1%20-%20$5 $3 |
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Quoted: What don't you like about the RCBS swage die? I have no experience with any of them. Quoted: Quoted: ...If you go swager, do yourself a favor and get the Dillon swager, not the RCBS swage die. ... I have no experience with any of them. Not one of RCBS's best efforts. A PITA to use, the old ones bent the rod very frequently. Having use the RCBS die swager and the Dillon swager, the cheaper RCBS tool would not be my choice. RCBS recognized this tools shortcomings and now make a swager that can compete with the Dillon. Reaming is cheaper $10, and works well. |
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Yep , Save your money and buy the Hornady reamer or a 1050 Quoted:
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Has anyone used the RCBS primer pocket swager tool-2 p/n 9481 and have any feedback? Yep , Save your money and buy the Hornady reamer or a 1050 that sucks, what's the problem with it? I already bought one, just haven't used it yet. |
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I don't mind much if it's slow and tedious, as long as there is a good end result. I'm talking a good 20 times slower than the other options. The result is fine, but the result from the other options is also just as good (there really isn't a "better" here, as they all do the same thing- allow you to fit a primer in a previously crimped pocket). |
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Same here. I figured for the amount I reload the swag die would work good enough for me, as long as it does work. Quoted:
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I don't mind much if it's slow and tedious, as long as there is a good end result. Same here. I figured for the amount I reload the swag die would work good enough for me, as long as it does work. it'll work, I'd still not buy it with the Hornady reamer available BTDT someone else now owns it |
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that sucks, what's the problem with it? I already bought one, just haven't used it yet. Quoted:
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Has anyone used the RCBS primer pocket swager tool-2 p/n 9481 and have any feedback? Yep , Save your money and buy the Hornady reamer or a 1050 that sucks, what's the problem with it? I already bought one, just haven't used it yet. It will do the job. I hated that thing at first. Now I can tolerate it. I swage right after I size so I go ahead and lube my primer pockets, gotta tumble the lube off anyway.  Helps to minimize the spirited handle manipulation to get the case off the spud.
I also bought a dedicated $30 Lee c frame single stage to keep it setup on. |
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Most reaming methods require you to hold the case securely with your hand. Long term or big batches can cause hand problems. Reaming properly makes a very consistent primer pocket. However, not aligning the case perfectly while reaming may not.
I found the RCBS swager that uses a press to be a PITA. It requires more force than sizing any case I resized. |
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Most reaming methods require you to hold the case securely with your hand. Long term or big batches can cause hand problems. Reaming properly makes a very consistent primer pocket. However, not aligning the case perfectly while reaming may not. I found the RCBS swager that uses a press to be a PITA. It requires more force than sizing any case I resized. Aren't most reamers somewhat self-centering unless you go crazy pressing it in the wrong spot? |
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Quoted: Aren't most reamers somewhat self-centering unless you go crazy pressing it in the wrong spot? Quoted: Quoted: Most reaming methods require you to hold the case securely with your hand. Long term or big batches can cause hand problems. Reaming properly makes a very consistent primer pocket. However, not aligning the case perfectly while reaming may not. I found the RCBS swager that uses a press to be a PITA. It requires more force than sizing any case I resized. Yes, I've never had an alignment issue. Now if your new to power tools, you might have to pay more attention to what your doing. |
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I also have the Dillon Super Swage 600 and I enjoy it.
For best results for me (as little a swage possible to accomplish goal), I find sorting brass first produces the most consistent result. Again, you don't have to sort, but I find it helps. As others have said ... over swaging is possible if you don't set the tool up correctly (all it really takes is a slight bump on the brass ... and the "press" style of the tool fools some into thinking they really need to get after it .... you don't) When I use my Dillon .... I sort the brass and test primers until I get the feel I want, and then I roll. With the r*eamer with the stop, its seem like there would be no sorting, little set up, cost effective, and highly unlikely to screw up.. While I haven't used one, the one with the stop seems like a great and economical solution.... particularly if you don't have extreme volume to do. Personal pref ... no wrong answer here. |
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Until i picked up up a 1050 i did swaging on the lathe. Chuck up the swager , lathe set up for mid rpm's and away i went. I went with the lathe instead of the drill press as it's easier ergonomically to get it done. IMO it's what you find more comfortable to use in the long run. Those who swage maybe 1K a year will be less likely to invest, like us who process that much per month, if not more.
If you're swaging by hand buy a box or two of latex or nitrile gloves. |
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