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6/6/2015 7:09:49 PM EDT
Have been using the RCBS hand primer for 2-3 years and I hate it... My hand gets sore, the primer rod floats around a lot and does not always push the primer in flush (have to spin brass and press again).

I am looking for something new. Would prefer hand but I guess bench mounted would do also. My only requirement is a tray/tube fed. I simply do not have the time to feed them one by one.
6/6/2015 7:42:55 PM EDT
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I've never used a handheld before, but I imagine this is the cause of your hands getting sore.


RCBS bench primer is the only thing I've used, it works pretty good.
6/6/2015 7:46:34 PM EDT
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Yeah, I have had my eye on that for awhile. Was hoping to save the bench space but it seems its the only primer tool that get rave reviews.
6/6/2015 8:04:16 PM EDT
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I've never used a handheld before, but I imagine this is the cause of your hands getting sore.


RCBS bench primer is the only thing I've used, it works pretty good.
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This a Great tool, and the vibra prime tubes also fit it
6/6/2015 8:26:49 PM EDT
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The RCBS bench priming tool is a God send for my hands.  A bit of arthritis in both, so hand priming is painful.  And it is what works for me priming .223/5.56.  I check for 100% crimp removal before I prime, prime the case and bag in 250 ct baggies until I reload.
6/6/2015 8:27:45 PM EDT
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You can mount it on a piece of plywood and stow it away when not in use.  Then bring it out and clamp it when you want to use it.  It doesn't need to take up bench space all the time.
6/6/2015 8:53:45 PM EDT
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You mention you're using the RCBS hand primer....are you using the universal priming tool or the one that uses shell holders from the press?


The reason I ask is I have the older style that uses normal shell holders and I find it very comfortable to use, the new style universal priming tool is not as comfortable the knurl on the screw hits my finger oddly which is pretty annoying and not comfortable.   One one hand the universal tool is nice because you don't have to pull it apart to switch your shell holder but I don't like the grip or the stinking primer stopper slide on the new style primer.
6/6/2015 9:43:20 PM EDT
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Yes I have the shell holder style. my biggest problem is the non centered primer rod. it wobbles around and comes up at a slight angle. This seats the primer uneven and requires me to spin the case and press again.

It also likes to jam while feeding and flip primers around. I guess it could just be my small primer plastic insert but I would rather not buy another if the same issues are going to persist.

The RCBS universal... does the center pin float or is it stationary?
6/6/2015 10:13:45 PM EDT
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The RCBS bench primer is a very nice tool, the primer tubes work well.







Mine is mounted to a piece of Oak which bolts to my bench. I drilled 4 holes, but found I only need two 1/4 bolts to hold it to my bench.


 



6/6/2015 10:20:49 PM EDT
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Yes I have the shell holder style. my biggest problem is the non centered primer rod. it wobbles around and comes up at a slight angle. This seats the primer uneven and requires me to spin the case and press again.



It also likes to jam while feeding and flip primers around. I guess it could just be my small primer plastic insert but I would rather not buy another if the same issues are going to persist.



The RCBS universal... does the center pin float or is it stationary?
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I have the RCBS universal and I really like it. I'm not following on you with the center pin foating? The center pin, or what I would call the push rod, moves up to seat the primer so I would imagine it's just like the one you already have.




I have never had a problem with primers not going in as long as I'm not priming problematic brass such as S&B.




Now, I have used the RCBS bench mounted tool once and I really like it as well. The only reason I don't buy one is I have a Forster Co-Ax so between that and the RCBS Universal I don't need to buy shellholders.
6/6/2015 10:29:28 PM EDT
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  I have the RCBS universal and I really like it. I'm not following on you with the center pin foating? The center pin, or what I would call the push rod, moves up to seat the primer so I would imagine it's just like the one you already have.


I have never had a problem with primers not going in as long as I'm not priming problematic brass such as S&B.


Now, I have used the RCBS bench mounted tool once and I really like it as well. The only reason I don't buy one is I have a Forster Co-Ax so between that and the RCBS Universal I don't need to buy shellholders.
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Yes I have the shell holder style. my biggest problem is the non centered primer rod. it wobbles around and comes up at a slight angle. This seats the primer uneven and requires me to spin the case and press again.

It also likes to jam while feeding and flip primers around. I guess it could just be my small primer plastic insert but I would rather not buy another if the same issues are going to persist.

The RCBS universal... does the center pin float or is it stationary?

  I have the RCBS universal and I really like it. I'm not following on you with the center pin foating? The center pin, or what I would call the push rod, moves up to seat the primer so I would imagine it's just like the one you already have.


I have never had a problem with primers not going in as long as I'm not priming problematic brass such as S&B.


Now, I have used the RCBS bench mounted tool once and I really like it as well. The only reason I don't buy one is I have a Forster Co-Ax so between that and the RCBS Universal I don't need to buy shellholders.


The center pin wobbles around. Instead of going straight up like | it sometimes goes up like / (not as much angle but you get the picture). This causes one side of the primer to seat more than the other.

6/6/2015 10:32:14 PM EDT
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You are using the large size to seat the large size primers, right?



Sounds like you are using the small shaft on large primers.
6/6/2015 10:33:52 PM EDT
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I've used the Lee priming tool with the 100 primer reservoir for years.  Works well, easy to tell by feel when the primers have bottomed out.

The thing I hate about it is that feels and looks like a pot metal die cast toy car.

I sort of hope it breaks so I can get a Sinclair or something that looks and feels good.
6/6/2015 10:47:15 PM EDT
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Yes I have the shell holder style. my biggest problem is the non centered primer rod. it wobbles around and comes up at a slight angle. This seats the primer uneven and requires me to spin the case and press again.

It also likes to jam while feeding and flip primers around. I guess it could just be my small primer plastic insert but I would rather not buy another if the same issues are going to persist.

The RCBS universal... does the center pin float or is it stationary?
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If you are using the correct insert and it has that much play I would just call RCBS and see what they say, if it is your insert they'll most likely just send you a new one at no charge.  Their CS is outstanding which is the reason I have a whole lot of green in my reloading area.
6/6/2015 11:33:06 PM EDT
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Yeah its correct small insert/small pin. I have spoke with RCBS and they said some play is normal.

either way I am set on the bench mounted version. Have it in my cart already!
6/6/2015 11:40:27 PM EDT
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If you've been using that tool for that long, you may have worn the guide for the priming punch, which will allow it to move around too much - and make your hand tired in the process.

Even if you're getting the bench-mounted priming tool, I'd see if you could also get replacements for the primer feeds (the part that connects the tray to the tool and that the punch goes through.  It can't hurt to have newer parts, even if you don't use the tool often.
6/7/2015 12:24:44 AM EDT
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OP, I use the old style RCBS hand primer and mine has very little to no slop between the pushrod and the plastic holder..something sounds funky...the primer shaft should be almost the same diameter as the primer pocket if you want to check..or I can measure mine real quick...

 Ok, my large primer shaft is .198 and the small shaft is .165...mine fit the plastic guide block pretty tight but still slide easy...
6/7/2015 1:06:51 AM EDT
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my rod is reading .165 and the middle of the white small insert is reading .189
6/7/2015 2:33:00 AM EDT
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my rod is reading .165 and the middle of the white small insert is reading .189
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I think the insert has been drilled out, the center of my white insert fits the .165  shaft snugly.....
6/7/2015 9:58:16 AM EDT
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I have carpal tunnel and my hands hurt after squeezing a lot or when trying to squeeze real hard.

I use the RCBS bench mounted priming tool. Works great and goes real fast. As Dryflash shows in his picture you do not have to leave it mounted. Put a couple threaded inserts in the bench and mount it when needed. I have the Inline Fabrication setup so I can swap out different items real easy.
6/7/2015 8:05:22 PM EDT
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I've used the Lee priming tool with the 100 primer reservoir for years.  Works well, easy to tell by feel when the primers have bottomed out.

The thing I hate about it is that feels and looks like a pot metal die cast toy car.

I sort of hope it breaks so I can get a Sinclair or something that looks and feels good.
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I have one of these too and I like it and the cheap feel of the pot metal is part of the joy

hope it doesn't break, they stopped making them like this.

I also have 2 of the RCBS universal ones and have no problem with any slop. sometimes I have to press it twice to get it to seat but it works.

I just don't squeeze it too hard or it can launch the case across the room
6/7/2015 8:26:29 PM EDT
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I've used the Lee priming tool with the 100 primer reservoir for years.  Works well, easy to tell by feel when the primers have bottomed out.

The thing I hate about it is that feels and looks like a pot metal die cast toy car.

I sort of hope it breaks so I can get a Sinclair or something that looks and feels good.
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It IS die cast.  It's aluminum for strength and light weight.  And if you lubricate it, particularly at the handle pivot, it won't feel crappy anymore.  The only problem with Lee's hand priming tools is their tray/feed system; it's been updated several times for smoother flow and improved safety.

With that said, I have both the Hornady and RCBS hand tools, and I stopped priming with my Lee tool when the tray broke.  They both require lubrication at the handle pivot for smooth operation.  So does Sinclair's tool.  The big difference between the Hornady tool and the Sinclair tool is that the Sinclair tool is ONLY one primer at a time, while Hornady's tool has a primer tray that helps speed up function.  Oh, and Sinclair's tool uses Lee-style shell holders, while just about everyone else uses standard shell holders anymore.
6/7/2015 9:15:00 PM EDT
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Thanks for the reply everyone. I ordered the rcbs bench mounted and also spoke with rcbs about getting a replacement insert. That should be on the way also.
6/7/2015 9:46:53 PM EDT
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Have been using the RCBS hand primer for 2-3 years and I hate it... My hand gets sore, the primer rod floats around a lot and does not always push the primer in flush (have to spin brass and press again).

I am looking for something new. Would prefer hand but I guess bench mounted would do also. My only requirement is a tray/tube fed. I simply do not have the time to feed them one by one.
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M:  If you want precision and adjustability, check out the K&M hand tool and a similar one sold by Sinclair.  The K&M tool uses common Lee primer shellholders.  Sinclair's tool uses its own line of shellholders, which look suspiciously like Lee's.  Both are designed to last a lifetime and will consistently seat your primers where you want them. - CW

https://www.kmshooting.com/catalog/primer-seater-tools/primer-deluxe.html

http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-equipment/priming-tools/hand-tools/sinclair-priming-tool-prod37732.aspx
6/7/2015 10:15:00 PM EDT
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Thanks for the reply everyone. I ordered the rcbs bench mounted and also spoke with rcbs about getting a replacement insert. That should be on the way also.
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Well done.
6/8/2015 6:30:07 PM EDT
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M:  If you want precision and adjustability, check out the K&M hand tool and a similar one sold by Sinclair.  The K&M tool uses common Lee primer shellholders.  Sinclair's tool uses its own line of shellholders, which look suspiciously like Lee's.  Both are designed to last a lifetime and will consistently seat your primers where you want them. - CW

https://www.kmshooting.com/catalog/primer-seater-tools/primer-deluxe.html

http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-equipment/priming-tools/hand-tools/sinclair-priming-tool-prod37732.aspx
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Have been using the RCBS hand primer for 2-3 years and I hate it... My hand gets sore, the primer rod floats around a lot and does not always push the primer in flush (have to spin brass and press again).

I am looking for something new. Would prefer hand but I guess bench mounted would do also. My only requirement is a tray/tube fed. I simply do not have the time to feed them one by one.
M:  If you want precision and adjustability, check out the K&M hand tool and a similar one sold by Sinclair.  The K&M tool uses common Lee primer shellholders.  Sinclair's tool uses its own line of shellholders, which look suspiciously like Lee's.  Both are designed to last a lifetime and will consistently seat your primers where you want them. - CW

https://www.kmshooting.com/catalog/primer-seater-tools/primer-deluxe.html

http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloading-equipment/priming-tools/hand-tools/sinclair-priming-tool-prod37732.aspx

I didn't know about the K&M tool.  For a little more than the basic Sinclair tool, you can get K&M's tool WITH a primer depth gauge built in.  There are a LOT of applications for that that aren't just benchrest.  And yes, Sinclair's shell holders do look an awful lot like Lee's.  So if I was ready to replace a tool, I'd just go with the K&M (with gauge) and buy a set of Lee priming shell holders.
6/8/2015 8:04:37 PM EDT
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The Sinclair tool uses Lee shell holders but they sell modified shell holders for use with it. The modified ones are slightly smaller and deburred. You can use the regular Lee's but they are a bit of a PITA to install and remove. I threw them in the dry tumbler with range brass several times and they fit a tad better.
That said, I finally got an RCBS Universal and it's sweet.
6/9/2015 10:31:01 AM EDT
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Do the Dillon Primer Pickup Tubes work with the RCBS Bench Mount Primer Tool?  I have a bunch of the Dillon tubes as I like the "feel" of them when picking up primers.  I have 2 that came with my Hornady LnL AP and frankly like the Dillon's better.
6/9/2015 4:40:06 PM EDT
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Not sure but I hope so, the rcbs tubes seem to be priced high.
6/9/2015 5:57:14 PM EDT
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Do the Dillon Primer Pickup Tubes work with the RCBS Bench Mount Primer Tool?  I have a bunch of the Dillon tubes as I like the "feel" of them when picking up primers.  I have 2 that came with my Hornady LnL AP and frankly like the Dillon's better.
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yes they do, pull the end off and drill for a hair pin
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