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4/12/2015 11:34:43 AM EDT
Using a Hornady LNL single stage press. Shell holder #16 and once fires LC brass. Imperial sizing lube. Just having trouble getting the brass to go in and out of the shell holder easy. Almost feels like there is a burr on the shell holder. Any tips or things I should do different. My manuals say the 16 is the holder but it's tight. Thanks in advance. Will try and call Hornady tomorow if I still can't figure something out.
4/12/2015 3:45:36 PM EDT
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Who manufactured the shell holder? The only ones I've ever heard anyone have problems with are Lee's. A lot of their .223 shell holders fit too tight.

Simply contact the manufacturer for a replacement.
4/12/2015 6:54:10 PM EDT
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Who manufactured the shell holder? The only ones I've ever heard anyone have problems with are Lee's. A lot of their .223 shell holders fit too tight.

Simply contact the manufacturer for a replacement.
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This has also been my experience, only the Lee's.

I have seen damaged rims cause it too though so you may want to look at that.

If you have a Dremel tool and the small sanding drum you may be able to open it up a little and correct it.

Just make sure you are sanding the problem area before you start.

Motor1
4/12/2015 8:13:39 PM EDT
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If it's every case, could be the shellholder.



If just some cases, most likely burrs on the brass.




Or could be burrs on all of your cases.




Look closely at cases/shellholder to determine.
4/12/2015 8:26:17 PM EDT
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I'm using a Hornady shell holder . And the brass seems to be burr free... Maybe I will try a small sanding bit on a dremel.
4/12/2015 8:29:34 PM EDT
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If it's every case, could be the shellholder.

If just some cases, most likely burrs on the brass.


Or could be burrs on all of your cases.


Look closely at cases/shellholder to determine.
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I'm going to try a different set of brass in the holder and try to use that to check and determine which one is the culprit.
4/12/2015 8:40:31 PM EDT
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I'm going to try a different set of brass in the holder and try to use that to check and determine which one is the culprit.
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If it's every case, could be the shellholder.

If just some cases, most likely burrs on the brass.


Or could be burrs on all of your cases.


Look closely at cases/shellholder to determine.


I'm going to try a different set of brass in the holder and try to use that to check and determine which one is the culprit.
While you're at it, I'd try a new piece of brass.
4/12/2015 8:44:04 PM EDT
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If it's every case, could be the shellholder.

If just some cases, most likely burrs on the brass.


Or could be burrs on all of your cases.


Look closely at cases/shellholder to determine.


I'm going to try a different set of brass in the holder and try to use that to check and determine which one is the culprit.
While you're at it, I'd try a new piece of brass.



This.  Some of my "hot" loads developed a small deformation from the extractor that makes them hard to slide in and out of my shell holders.   I thought .223 used #4, or is that just the Lee designation?
4/12/2015 9:31:32 PM EDT
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NO, NO, NO...
4/12/2015 9:43:33 PM EDT
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Once fired by you, or purchased once fired?

If it all went through the same gun it is entirely possible that the rims are damaged, if it's your gun a heavier buffer may help you preserve your brass.

Take the suspect brass and stand it on a flat piece of glass or steel and see it is wobbles, it should sit flat and stable, also take your calipers and measure the rim diameter in 6-8 places, compare to something unfired and new.

If you're just going to try different brass try something from a different gun, and preferably something lower pressure.
4/12/2015 10:07:23 PM EDT
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If it's every case, could be the shellholder.

If just some cases, most likely burrs on the brass.


Or could be burrs on all of your cases.


Look closely at cases/shellholder to determine.


I'm going to try a different set of brass in the holder and try to use that to check and determine which one is the culprit.
While you're at it, I'd try a new piece of
brass.


Just tried a few brand new factory rounds and it won't  even slide in without excessive force. Way too snug compared to any other caliber I have reloaded.
4/12/2015 10:08:52 PM EDT
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I'm using a Hornady shell holder . And the brass seems to be burr free... Maybe I will try a small sanding bit on a dremel.

NO, NO, NO...


Ha alright I won't sand it down.
4/12/2015 11:22:36 PM EDT
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Burs on the front face of the rim won't be very obvious, but they can make it hard for the case to seat into the shell holder.  As long as you don't have anything crammed up inside the slot in the shell holder it should work fine - the steel shell holder is much harder than the brass cases, after all...

As others have asked, is it just some cases, or is it every single one?  If every one gives you problems AND you've tried other cases and had problems with them as well, contact Hornady.  If it isn't every single case, it's not the shell holder, and it's time to look at your brass very carefully.
4/13/2015 1:20:53 PM EDT
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I had this same issue, if Im reading this correctly.  The #16 is the correct plate.

When you go to slide the cases into station 1 on your LnL the case will bind, and be very hard to push in with multiple different brands of brass?  You might also get hard ejection at station 5?

If this is it, call Hornady, have them send a new shell plate.  I had a shell plate that was out of spec, and had to exchange it.
4/13/2015 2:44:03 PM EDT
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I had this same issue, if Im reading this correctly.  The #16 is the correct plate.

When you go to slide the cases into station 1 on your LnL the case will bind, and be very hard to push in with multiple different brands of brass?  You might also get hard ejection at station 5?

If this is it, call Hornady, have them send a new shell plate.  I had a shell plate that was out of spec, and had to exchange it.
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OP has a single-station LnL press, but this is good information.  Hornady has given me some spectacular support the few times I've needed it (including doing dumb things like taking apart the metering rotor of my powder measure).  I'm sure they'll make right any shell plate or shell holder they made.
4/13/2015 2:53:44 PM EDT
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OP has a single-station LnL press, but this is good information.  Hornady has given me some spectacular support the few times I've needed it (including doing dumb things like taking apart the metering rotor of my powder measure).  I'm sure they'll make right any shell plate or shell holder they made.
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I had this same issue, if Im reading this correctly.  The #16 is the correct plate.

When you go to slide the cases into station 1 on your LnL the case will bind, and be very hard to push in with multiple different brands of brass?  You might also get hard ejection at station 5?

If this is it, call Hornady, have them send a new shell plate.  I had a shell plate that was out of spec, and had to exchange it.

OP has a single-station LnL press, but this is good information.  Hornady has given me some spectacular support the few times I've needed it (including doing dumb things like taking apart the metering rotor of my powder measure).  I'm sure they'll make right any shell plate or shell holder they made.


Doh!

Reading comprehension is key at times

Id just go pick up another shell holder then.  They are cheap enough.  I actually use Lee holders on my Hornady single stage because I got just about every caliber for $20 in a kit.
4/13/2015 5:17:24 PM EDT
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I have had the same problem with Hornady shellholders in the recent past, ordered two more, had the same problem, wound up sending all of them to Hornady so they could see for them selves. They fixed them.
4/13/2015 7:53:07 PM EDT
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They can't fix what they don't know is broke...  Definitely contact Hornady.
4/13/2015 11:12:57 PM EDT
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It is all brass that binds. Brand new, different brand new factory loaded head stamps, once fired.. Only a few cases I can get to jam in so I called it quits. I will call Hornady in the morning .
4/14/2015 9:27:03 AM EDT
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In for the outcome.  I expect it will be positive.
4/14/2015 1:24:10 PM EDT
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Talked to customer service at Hornady this morning. Very nice person I spoke with and they are sending me out a replacement and a return label to send back my defective shell holder at their cost.
Hope the new one works out.
There were no questions at all they just confirmed my address and I already have a shipment notification only a few hours later.
4/14/2015 1:28:40 PM EDT
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Talked to customer service at Hornady this morning. Very nice person I spoke with and they are sending me out a replacement and a return label to send back my defective shell holder at their cost.
Hope the new one works out.
There were no questions at all they just confirmed my address and I already have a shipment notification only a few hours later.
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In for the outcome.  I expect it will be positive.


Talked to customer service at Hornady this morning. Very nice person I spoke with and they are sending me out a replacement and a return label to send back my defective shell holder at their cost.
Hope the new one works out.
There were no questions at all they just confirmed my address and I already have a shipment notification only a few hours later.


Pretty much the norm for them.  I actually had my #16 shell plate replaced at my local store.  They sell alot of Hornady stuff, so all they did was pull a new plate off the wall, give it to me, had me fill out a short form, and sent it back for me.
4/17/2015 8:14:59 PM EDT
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Got the replacement shell holder yesterday! It's actually stamped "H16" . Wonder if those are ones that were physically touched and tested by Hornady quality control ... Not sure but it works like a charm. I'm happy .
4/17/2015 8:20:10 PM EDT
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The newer ones I've seen are marked "H".  I got an extra H 16 so I could have different tools set up for .223/.380/300 Blk.  Even at Outdoor World's "out of this world" prices, it was a great buy...
4/17/2015 8:25:42 PM EDT
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Deleted by author - should have read ALL of the responses :)
4/17/2015 10:30:50 PM EDT
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Got the replacement shell holder yesterday! It's actually stamped "H16" . Wonder if those are ones that were physically touched and tested by Hornady quality control ... Not sure but it works like a charm. I'm happy .
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Glad you have you problem solved.

 
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