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2/19/2015 12:42:35 AM EDT
So, if you're going to reload M855, what bullets is one going to use? What is the bullet equivalent?
2/19/2015 12:44:35 AM EDT
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Speer 62 gr FMJ, lead core. Kinda close.
2/19/2015 1:57:15 AM EDT
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Not sure exactly what you are asking OP.

The LC pulls or bulk non-pulls I have had better luck with than the PPU manufactured brand.

Neither are going to be stellar in their 100 yard performance.

Just my experience.

2/19/2015 3:10:13 AM EDT
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I was just browsing around looking at 223 bullet options and noticed RMR selling a 62gr lead FMJ.  They don't mention the manufacturer, maybe blem Speer?  Not a bad price at all either!

http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/223-556-62-Grain-Newly-Mfg-Lead-Core-FMJ-1000-Ct-223-62-FMJ-NEW-1000-Ct.htm
2/19/2015 4:52:51 AM EDT
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M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.
2/19/2015 10:29:05 AM EDT
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I picked up some cheap federal 62 grain fmj lead core (doesn't attract a magnet) from American reloading a while back. They're about as inaccurate as the ss109 and I honestly think they're harder on steel targets too lol.
2/19/2015 12:23:39 PM EDT
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I'm still kinda speechless about it.

I'm going to stop loading M855, put some desiccant in with my remaining pile of SS109 bullets and stash them somewhere.

My other favorite 60 something grain bullet has always been the very accurate Winchester 64gr PP, which, of course, isn't available at the moment.



I don't know what to do. The range I work at is opening a 200 yard line this summer and I planned on opening that 200 yard line with a barrage of M855.



2/19/2015 12:38:30 PM EDT
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I was just browsing around looking at 223 bullet options and noticed RMR selling a 62gr lead FMJ. They don't mention the manufacturer, maybe blem Speer? Not a bad price at all either!



http://www.shop.rmrbullets.com/223-556-62-Grain-Newly-Mfg-Lead-Core-FMJ-1000-Ct-223-62-FMJ-NEW-1000-Ct.htm
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It doesn't really matter reloading wise.



Begin loading at the "start" load and work up watching for pressure signs.



If you want a sure thing accuracy load with FMJ's, get some 55 gr Hornady FMJBT's.



They shoot right around an inch at 100 yds, 5 shot group.
2/19/2015 6:12:59 PM EDT
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M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.
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So, if you're going to reload M855, what bullets is one going to use? What is the bullet equivalent?


M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.


I've shot some of these, and I agree.  They're some of the most inaccurate bullets I've ever used. Fine for blasting empty milk jugs at 50 yards, and not much else.
2/19/2015 6:28:05 PM EDT
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SS109's is what I'd be using
2/19/2015 7:44:17 PM EDT
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That seems to be the consensus.
2/19/2015 8:14:22 PM EDT
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These lasted for awhile during the panicked buying over the weekend, but are now out of stock.

Canadian SS109's
2/19/2015 8:22:21 PM EDT
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I bought 5000 Hornady 55 gr bullets before the ATF farted.  I think that is the best plan unless you feel the need for a heavier bullet.  They punch the same sized hole in paper for me and ring steel the same.  










I figure I have close to 4000 various M855 rounds somewhere. I will work on my neckbeard this weekend and hope the demand goes higher.  I need more reloading supplies.  







It makes me wonder how much Varget I could trade to the existing neckbeards...............

 
2/19/2015 8:23:49 PM EDT
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It's the typical I want what I can't have.  I've been guilty as well.
2/19/2015 10:07:17 PM EDT
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Just got my mitts on some SS109's for free because I wanted to try something heavier.

I have sinced learned two things.

Out of no where the  BATFE now has a hard on for me owning it.

It is a poor choice for now for cheap plinking ammo.

Lead core seems to be a better choice now.
2/19/2015 10:44:25 PM EDT
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I'm still kinda speechless about it.

I'm going to stop loading M855, put some desiccant in with my remaining pile of SS109 bullets and stash them somewhere.

My other favorite 60 something grain bullet has always been the very accurate Winchester 64gr PP, which, of course, isn't available at the moment.



I don't know what to do. The range I work at is opening a 200 yard line this summer and I planned on opening that 200 yard line with a barrage of M855.



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there are many more options out there than ss109 to throw down range at 200 yards. Try 62 gr fmj or even Hornady 55gr fmj. 75 and 77gr are other non plink options
2/19/2015 10:55:23 PM EDT
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Just got my mitts on some SS109's for free because I wanted to try something heavier.

I have sinced learned two things.

Out of no where the  BATFE now has a hard on for me owning it.

It is a poor choice for now for cheap plinking ammo.

Lead core seems to be a better choice now.
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actually I'd call 109's lead cored as it's just a steel tip sitting on a lead core
2/20/2015 9:11:58 AM EDT
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M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.
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So, if you're going to reload M855, what bullets is one going to use? What is the bullet equivalent?


M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.
 Right on, even the GIs don't like M855 ammo (green tip).  The actual bullet is designed to be cheap with a modicum of armor penetration.  It trades off accuracy compared to the older 55 grain fmj ammo.  If you want a 5.56 reload that improves on that and is close to the latest military fodder, try the Barnes 62 grain Tac-X bullet. - CW
2/21/2015 8:27:25 AM EDT
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Dealers seem to have a lot of M855 for sale right now! My bullet for 200+ is the Hornady 75 gr BTHP (H2279) in a 1:8 barrel. For 100- I use most any 55 gr for 3Gun (average 1 to 1.5 MOA from bench)
2/21/2015 11:37:01 AM EDT
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I have a few K left that I got cheap.

I may sell/trade them to someone who really wants them and buy either Hornady 75 or 55gr.
2/21/2015 12:03:27 PM EDT
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At 100yds, Hornady 55Gr. SP will punch a hole in 3/8" mild steel.

M855 makes a good attempt but does not go through.  That was my experience, YMMV
2/21/2015 12:11:22 PM EDT
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M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.
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So, if you're going to reload M855, what bullets is one going to use? What is the bullet equivalent?


M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.


Exactly.  You can handload much better rounds, even AP if you find the bullets.  I never quite understood the lust for 855.  Not very accurate.  OK for plinking, I guess.  Paper don't care about a steel core, and well, try hitting a steel popper with 855 and see how long you're allowed to stay on the range!  
2/21/2015 1:23:38 PM EDT
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I think anyone who has these bullets laying around should wait for prices to rise and sell them. I consider them trash, use the money to buy accurate bullets.

There will be people who want the SS109's simply because the government doesn't want them to own them. More power to them. They are a poor choice for anyone serious about accuracy.
2/21/2015 1:34:12 PM EDT
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edit: I see they now have two listings
2/23/2015 4:28:13 AM EDT
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At 100yds, Hornady 55Gr. SP will punch a hole in 3/8" mild steel.

M855 makes a good attempt but does not go through.  That was my experience, YMMV
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velocity is king. lessons learned from 5.7x28, 7.62x25, and 17hmr.
2/23/2015 11:26:19 AM EDT
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I've been buying SS109 bullets from Wideners at $50 to $60 per 500 bullets for years.  I'd buy every 2-3 months...

I lost them all in a fishing accident.  For a boat anchor I put them all in 1 gallon milk jugs, tied them to paracord, and threw them over the side for makeshift anchors...

Wouldn't you know it, every darn one of those jugs came off the paracord, and are sitting somewhere at the bottom of a lake.

If I manage to find them again, I'll probably just use SS109's for M855 loads.  

That said, I take this as just another opportunity to pair down my ammo load options.

Once...Since the SS109's are gone, I will load all future ammo with higher quality bullets.  This means most of my ammo will be 75gr Tipped Sierra MatchKings, and 64gr Bonded Core.  The rest will be 60gr Hornady Vmax.

Costs will be higher, but I'm in the process of reconfiguring my entire AR-15 inventory.

It is going to be changed to 50% AR Pistols in 5.56 & 300BLK (which have FAR greater potential usability for my purposes), 25% will become medium range precision builds (for use out to 600-800yds), and 25% will become dedicated 22LR Trainers.

A vast majority of my AR Pistol loads will be 300blk, and thus a vast majority of my 556 will be for precision shooting (75gr SMK), or short range defense (bonded core 64gr).  For plinking, I'm giving up on cheap 223
2/23/2015 11:54:47 AM EDT
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I think anyone who has these bullets laying around should wait for prices to rise and sell them. I consider them trash, use the money to buy accurate bullets.

There will be people who want the SS109's simply because the government doesn't want them to own them. More power to them. They are a poor choice for anyone serious about accuracy.
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I purchased around 6K of these new SS109 bullets two years ago and only loaded up around 250 of them.  I'll wait for the demand to increase and trade them (or sell them and then buy) for SMK 69 or 77gr pills...  The 75gr Hornadys seem to be pretty accurate in my guns too.
2/23/2015 11:59:54 AM EDT
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M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.
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So, if you're going to reload M855, what bullets is one going to use? What is the bullet equivalent?


M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.


ETA: Oops totally misread your post. Agreed, fine for military use, generally not that accurate.
2/23/2015 12:07:39 PM EDT
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ETA: Oops totally misread your post. Agreed, fine for military use, generally not that accurate.
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So, if you're going to reload M855, what bullets is one going to use? What is the bullet equivalent?


M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.


ETA: Oops totally misread your post. Agreed, fine for military use, generally not that accurate.


Decent quality SS109's can be accurate. Most people say M855 isn't accurate because they are used to Federal floor sweepings.

1.5 MOA is pretty good accuracy for ball ammo, and SS109 can achieve this, if not better
2/23/2015 12:19:02 PM EDT
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Decent quality SS109's can be accurate. Most people say M855 isn't accurate because they are used to Federal floor sweepings.

1.5 MOA is pretty good accuracy for ball ammo, and SS109 can achieve this, if not better
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So, if you're going to reload M855, what bullets is one going to use? What is the bullet equivalent?


M855 is the cartridge name. SS109 is the bullet, which is a 62gn steel core bullet. Honestly, there are way better bullets out there if you are

wanting the best accuracy you can get.


ETA: Oops totally misread your post. Agreed, fine for military use, generally not that accurate.


Decent quality SS109's can be accurate. Most people say M855 isn't accurate because they are used to Federal floor sweepings.

1.5 MOA is pretty good accuracy for ball ammo, and SS109 can achieve this, if not better


Sure- I have had the same experience - not in the same category as a Sierra match bullet certainly.   I originally misread his post (I know, reading is fundamental) and thought it said there's no better bullet for accuracy.
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