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Posted: 11/12/2014 6:16:34 PM EDT
| Been using Reloader7 for this, 405 grain cast bullets(Lee mold, wheelweight alloy). Out of Reloader 7, so pulled up IMR's page for 4064 in the same weight. Gun is a 12" Contender, trapdoor pressure loads say 46 grains(on IMR's site). Loaded a few, and it seems to be dangerously close to a compressed load. Wanting hotter than cowboy loads while staying safe for the gun. IS it OK with 4064 to be so close to compressing the powder? |
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It's perfectly OK to compress IMR-4064. Some loads listed in published data even have the "c" next to them to let you know that it is a compressed load. Thanks-that's what I was thinking, but have never dealt with compressed loads before, so thought I'd ask. |
Yeah, the lack of RL7 is somewhat depressing.
I picked up a 45/70 Ruger No.1 and it was the easiest rifle I've worked a load up for with RL7. Accurate, great velocity and clean burning. Now there's no RL7 to be found and the manufacture seems to not be shipping. So without RL7 I've had to go through the process I've run into for years of trying different powders to find one that will work. It took me three different ones to get back to where I was with RL7 right off the bat. |
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Yeah, the lack of RL7 is somewhat depressing.
I picked up a 45/70 Ruger No.1 and it was the easiest rifle I've worked a load up for with RL7. Accurate, great velocity and clean burning. Now there's no RL7 to be found and the manufacture seems to not be shipping. So without RL7 I've had to go through the process I've run into for years of trying different powders to find one that will work. It took me three different ones to get back to where I was with RL7 right off the bat. Bought mine when I first got the .45-70 barrel-figured with it labeled "Great for .45-70" it was a good one to start with. It's only great if you can get your hands on it. Even having to work up a new load, though, it obviously saves money over factory ammo. $2.15 per round gets old. Thought about playing with some light handgun powder loads, but handgun powder is harder to get here than .22LR ammo. |
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After RL7, I tried IMR 4895 but it left a lot of unburned powder in the barrel. This is with both standard and magnum primers.
I tried 2400 and didn't really like the percentage of case left empty and it is very dirty. I'm settling on H335 right now. It leaves some power in the chamber and barrel but not much. It has shown to be accurate and gets the velocity I'm after with no problem. I've read some rumors that H335 can hangfire in cold temps, so I'll be checking this out this weekend. It's getting cold in northern Ohio. I'll leave the ammo out in the truck overnight and go to the range Sunday and see what it does. Current loads I'm running: 52 gr RL7, Starline cases, Primer: WLR, Horn. 300 JHP #4500 1950fps avg I have about 40 of these left for the season 49 gr H335 Starline case, Primer GM210, Horn 300 JHP #4500 2000fps avg These are current practice rounds. edit for load data. |
I used to use H322 in my .450 marlin guide gun but the gun is a whole lot more enjoyable to shoot using SR4759. It shaves a little off the velocity (1700fps vs 2000), but I don't think whatever I shoot at can tell the difference. My dental work sure likes the lighter load. 
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| Thanks for the recommendations. Mainly went with 4064 this time around because I was in a loading mood, had it on hand and was able to find published loads, no other reason. Will definitely buy powders with more range in the data when I buy powder again, but for now I had a few empties and had to remedy the situation. |
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Bought mine when I first got the .45-70 barrel-figured with it labeled "Great for .45-70" it was a good one to start with. It's only great if you can get your hands on it. Even having to work up a new load, though, it obviously saves money over factory ammo. $2.15 per round gets old. Thought about playing with some light handgun powder loads, but handgun powder is harder to get here than .22LR ammo. Quoted:
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Yeah, the lack of RL7 is somewhat depressing.
I picked up a 45/70 Ruger No.1 and it was the easiest rifle I've worked a load up for with RL7. Accurate, great velocity and clean burning. Now there's no RL7 to be found and the manufacture seems to not be shipping. So without RL7 I've had to go through the process I've run into for years of trying different powders to find one that will work. It took me three different ones to get back to where I was with RL7 right off the bat. Bought mine when I first got the .45-70 barrel-figured with it labeled "Great for .45-70" it was a good one to start with. It's only great if you can get your hands on it. Even having to work up a new load, though, it obviously saves money over factory ammo. $2.15 per round gets old. Thought about playing with some light handgun powder loads, but handgun powder is harder to get here than .22LR ammo. If you can find it, Unique is one of my favorite 45/70 plinker loads. |
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Yeah, the lack of RL7 is somewhat depressing.
I picked up a 45/70 Ruger No.1 and it was the easiest rifle I've worked a load up for with RL7. Accurate, great velocity and clean burning. Now there's no RL7 to be found and the manufacture seems to not be shipping. So without RL7 I've had to go through the process I've run into for years of trying different powders to find one that will work. It took me three different ones to get back to where I was with RL7 right off the bat. Bought mine when I first got the .45-70 barrel-figured with it labeled "Great for .45-70" it was a good one to start with. It's only great if you can get your hands on it. Even having to work up a new load, though, it obviously saves money over factory ammo. $2.15 per round gets old. Thought about playing with some light handgun powder loads, but handgun powder is harder to get here than .22LR ammo. If you can find it, Unique is one of my favorite 45/70 plinker loads. I concur, 12.5 unique with a 405 lead bullet is fun and accurate. |
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Yeah, the lack of RL7 is somewhat depressing.
I picked up a 45/70 Ruger No.1 and it was the easiest rifle I've worked a load up for with RL7. Accurate, great velocity and clean burning. Now there's no RL7 to be found and the manufacture seems to not be shipping. So without RL7 I've had to go through the process I've run into for years of trying different powders to find one that will work. It took me three different ones to get back to where I was with RL7 right off the bat. Bought mine when I first got the .45-70 barrel-figured with it labeled "Great for .45-70" it was a good one to start with. It's only great if you can get your hands on it. Even having to work up a new load, though, it obviously saves money over factory ammo. $2.15 per round gets old. Thought about playing with some light handgun powder loads, but handgun powder is harder to get here than .22LR ammo. If you can find it, Unique is one of my favorite 45/70 plinker loads. I concur, 12.5 unique with a 405 lead bullet is fun and accurate. Maybe I'll try a couple when I load again. Got a SMALL amount of Unique left(maybe 2 tablespoons). An experiment like that might be just the thing to burn it up. |
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Maybe I'll try a couple when I load again. Got a SMALL amount of Unique left(maybe 2 tablespoons). An experiment like that might be just the thing to burn it up. I did 12gr of Unique in my 450 Marlin and it was a consistent load with 425gr ranch dogs runs around 1140fps. |
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