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4/27/2014 12:14:50 PM EDT
Ive got 1lb of Hogdgon universal powder that was given to me by a friend. It has been sitting in his garage for a year on a shelf. You guys think its still good to go or should I just toss it. I didn't know if the hot and cold temperature swings would have messed it up. Thanks for the help guys.
4/27/2014 12:22:30 PM EDT
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We don't know how long smokeless powder will last, because some of the first smokeless powder made is still good.

Now, that is with perfect storage conditions.

Open that can and give it the sniff test.  If it smells of a solvent odor, it is most likely good.  If it has a sour odor, it may have gone bad.

Chances are it is good.
4/27/2014 12:49:41 PM EDT
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I'm still using powder I bought in 1980 or so.  Still shoots just fine.



If it has the solvent smell it should be OK.




Powder that has gone bad has an acrid smell, and may be coated in a reddish powder.







If you still don't trust it, spread it on the lawn; it makes a wonderful fertilizer.
4/27/2014 1:27:02 PM EDT
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Ive got 1lb of Hogdgon universal powder that was given to me by a friend. It has been sitting in his garage for a year on a shelf. You guys think its still good to go or should I just toss it. I didn't know if the hot and cold temperature swings would have messed it up. Thanks for the help guys.
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Only a year, it is just fine to use. It takes decades before it breaks down. If anything doesn't seem right with a powder toss it.
4/27/2014 3:51:50 PM EDT
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I'm shooting Turkish military surplus ammo made in 1943. Its powder is over 70 years old. Who know what kind of temperature swings it has had to endure. That powder still goes bang with gusto. I wish I was that energetic.
4/27/2014 4:18:28 PM EDT
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A long time. Notice the price on these cans.
4/27/2014 4:21:52 PM EDT
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Properly stored, smokeless powder will likely last several hundred years.  If stored so that it is exposed to hot and humid conditions in an open container it may last only a couple of years.  

The smell test above is a good one.  The trace solvents are almost always gone before degradation takes place.  If the powder has a rusty look, it is bad and should be strewn about the yard as fertilizer.
4/27/2014 4:49:22 PM EDT
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I loaded and shot some H110 last weekend that I bought 12 years ago. It was GTG.

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4/27/2014 4:50:39 PM EDT
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Keep it dry. It has no real shelf life if you do.
4/27/2014 6:40:16 PM EDT
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Yesterday I loaded & fired some 700x that had been sitting in my grandfathers basement for decades, your power will probably be fine.
4/27/2014 8:21:49 PM EDT
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nothing wrong with old powder, unless it's clumped and or has an acrid ammonia smell to it.

bought this at an auction in 1990 ( and it was old then). not down to the bottom yet and it still performs great.



4/28/2014 3:37:55 AM EDT
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I was just wondering this same thing... I have a pound of Unique that somebody gave me a little over 10 years ago, and I was wondering if it was still good. The smell test tells me it is!
4/30/2014 4:35:05 AM EDT
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Looked at the universal powder In question. It has no sour smell but it is reddish in color. I dunno if it's supposed to look this way?  It had the top on right and the little seal part still on the top of the bottle. What do you guys think.
4/30/2014 6:24:08 AM EDT
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Looked at the universal powder In question. It has no sour smell but it is reddish in color. I dunno if it's supposed to look this way?  It had the top on right and the little seal part still on the top of the bottle. What do you guys think.
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Personally, I have never had any powder go bad but, to me, if it smells bad OR is odd colored I would use as fertilizer. (And red isn't the right color for powder.)

IMO, it wouldn't be worth damaging myself or my firearm over "suspect" powder.
4/30/2014 6:33:54 AM EDT
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My dad had 20-30 pounds of powder stored in his closet from the 1994 clinton scare and as of this year it still works great.  He even had an old can of H1000 sitting out in an unconditioned shop, and while I haven't used it yet, it still smells and looks the same as a new can.
4/30/2014 6:41:54 AM EDT
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Personally, I have never had any powder go bad but, to me, if it smells bad OR is odd colored I would use as fertilizer. (And red isn't the right color for powder.)

IMO, it wouldn't be worth damaging myself or my firearm over "suspect" powder.
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Looked at the universal powder In question. It has no sour smell but it is reddish in color. I dunno if it's supposed to look this way?  It had the top on right and the little seal part still on the top of the bottle. What do you guys think.


Personally, I have never had any powder go bad but, to me, if it smells bad OR is odd colored I would use as fertilizer. (And red isn't the right color for powder.)

IMO, it wouldn't be worth damaging myself or my firearm over "suspect" powder.


This is what I'm thinking I didn't think reddish was the right color
4/30/2014 9:25:36 AM EDT
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I have a 10lb can of HiSkor from the 1960's (pre 700X) that I'm using to reload 9mm.  It was free to me, and works great.



Finding data for other calibers is a pain.  I'd love to find some data for .45 ACP.  (Hint anyone with 1960's reloading manuals feel free to IM me)
4/30/2014 10:26:11 AM EDT
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Looked at the universal powder In question. It has no sour smell but it is reddish in color. I dunno if it's supposed to look this way? It had the top on right and the little seal part still on the top of the bottle. What do you guys think.
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If it has red particles in the powder, it has spoiled, don't use.



Only Red Dot powder should have red particles in it.
4/30/2014 2:16:40 PM EDT
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I just got #2 of bullseye given to me that has a mfg date of 98' and has been sitting a garage for a couple years and before that who knows. Looks and smells ok to me, guess ill give it a shot...
4/30/2014 2:20:51 PM EDT
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Even some mild clumping is ok depending on the powder.  



Ramshot TAC, for instance, may clump just a bit after sitting on the shelf for a while, but as long as it's not discolored and still smells right, it's fine.  <-  I got this info straight from the manufacturer last year when I was concerned about a jug of powder that I'd had sitting on the shelf a couple of years.  I shook it up to break the clumps, and it's all good.
4/30/2014 7:17:37 PM EDT
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I have a 10lb can of HiSkor from the 1960's (pre 700X) that I'm using to reload 9mm.  It was free to me, and works great.

Finding data for other calibers is a pain.  I'd love to find some data for .45 ACP.  (Hint anyone with 1960's reloading manuals feel free to IM me)
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4/30/2014 11:03:41 PM EDT
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We have powder on plant from 1894 that is tested every couple of years to check degradation so a year in a garage shouldn't be too bad.
5/1/2014 8:24:21 AM EDT
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Looked at the universal powder In question. It has no sour smell but it is reddish in color. I dunno if it's supposed to look this way?  It had the top on right and the little seal part still on the top of the bottle. What do you guys think.
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If it's red, that is a bad sign.  Pour a little in a bowl to see if it is shot through with red dust.  Don't put it in a powder measure until you are certain it's okay, you'll have to disassemble the measure to clean up the mess.

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