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Posted: 3/9/2014 3:09:02 PM EDT
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Went to the range to test some new 223 rounds in my AR.
After leaving the range I noticed one of my mags still had a round and an empty case in it. What would cause a round to fire, stay in the magazine, and dent of the case at the mouth? Thanks. 
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Went to the range to test some new 223 rounds in my AR. After leaving the range I noticed one of my mags still had a round and an empty case in it. What would cause a round to fire, stay in the magazine, and dent of the case at the mouth? Thanks. http://s9.postimg.org/w4ou66k67/image_15.jpg Not possible. It was fired, ejected then put back in the mag. Unless you loaded an empty case and never chambered it. |
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Not possible. It was fired, ejected then put back in the mag. Unless you loaded an empty case and never chambered it. Quoted:
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Went to the range to test some new 223 rounds in my AR. After leaving the range I noticed one of my mags still had a round and an empty case in it. What would cause a round to fire, stay in the magazine, and dent of the case at the mouth? Thanks. http://s9.postimg.org/w4ou66k67/image_15.jpg Not possible. It was fired, ejected then put back in the mag. Unless you loaded an empty case and never chambered it. I do not remember loading an empty case into the magazine. I brought 20 rounds to the range in a box, bullets facing up. I loading 10 into one magazine and emptied it. I loaded the last 10. I pulled the trigger the 10th time and the rifle did not fire, and I thought it was because I shot all 10 rounds. I put it on safe, dropped the magazine, and looked into my chamber but the bolt was forward. I then pulled the charging handle back and didn't see anything so I dropped it back down and pulled the trigger and put the rifle in the case. When I looked into my range bag I then noticed what I took a picture of. If it is not possible to have a fired case in a magazine than I have no idea what happened..... and I will just move on like nothing happened, but hopefully someone can help me understand what happened. |
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I can't imagine the bcg pushing the case back into the magazine.
The bolt override you show is different, there's room over the bolt for the case to get into. That's not the case in the OP, the round would have had to push the other round down into the magazine. Since the round in the magazine would have lifted as soon as the bolt was back there would be no where for the empty case to go to get under the bcg. That empty case had to have been added to the magazine, or loaded with the other rounds as mentioned above. |
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Is it possible that when you seated the bullet you crushed the case mouth, then when the rifle tried to strip the round to chamber it, it got hung up on the bullet, the bolt ended up going over the top of the round and the bullet worked it's way out of that seriously deforemed case mouth? Was there powder all over in your magazine? Where is the bullet? Agree with the others, this looks like Rod Serling moment, but that case mouth looks like it was crushed while seating. Not that I know from personal experience or anything...... ;) |
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I just shook out the magazine and there was no powder in it that would indicate that the bullet did not fire completely. The primer was struck. I am going to chalk it up as a once in a lifetime type of a deal. I think you've found the answer. As for other "twilight zone" reloading events: -you've seen one posted above: the "spent brass over-BCG" jam. Had that once. Bitch to clear too. -ammo dropped on floor/ground and going off: it happens. The primer has to be hit just exactly the right way - but it can happen. -rounds wedging just the right way down in a pistol magazine -ejector fire especially in 1911s (that's an exciting one to be near) -loaded ammo getting hit by an ejected case & going off. Happened only once at a range where I worked; just one single round in an open box of 50 rounds and it just went off. Two other shooters on the line happened to be CSI guys and they went out to their CSI truck, & did a CSI investigation after slosing that eveing. They eventually found the fired case wedged in the overhead baffling and matched the primer indentation to the rim of a fired case. The bullet was still in the remains of the shatterd box. BTW - they had a lot of cool toys to play with while investigating. |
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