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Posted: 3/9/2014 12:43:05 PM EDT
| Man is that stuff hot. 4.5 gr under a 230 gr plated RN. Shot well, but the recoil was a bit more than the cheap factory stuff I've been shooting. Let my dad shoot a magazine while I stood to the side. Concussion was amazing. |
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It runs hot too (as in thermal). You will notice the pistol gets unusually hot and discolored after a few mags of quick shooting. I switched to WSF for this reason, and to get something a little slower. Agreed, it's a great powder but definitely hot for longer shooting sessions. I prefer True Blue or Silhouette. I've got a 4lb jug of Titegroup that's been relegated to the back of the bench for a rainy day. |
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It runs hot too (as in thermal). You will notice the pistol gets unusually hot and discolored after a few mags of quick shooting. I switched to WSF for this reason, and to get something a little slower. Yep, muzzle of pistol quite a bit different after 100 rounds than normal. Cases a lot hotter too. |
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It runs hot too (as in thermal). You will notice the pistol gets unusually hot and discolored after a few mags of quick shooting. I switched to WSF for this reason, and to get something a little slower. Love WSF for my 9! The TG was snappy and heavier recoil. |
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It runs hot too (as in thermal). You will notice the pistol gets unusually hot and discolored after a few mags of quick shooting. I switched to WSF for this reason, and to get something a little slower. I get a kick out of watching the guys that shoot lead over Titegroup. They look like they're shooting black powder. Plated or powder coated bullets eliminate all that smoke. Also I can't find any online to purchase. |
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I've got a 4lb jug of Titegroup that's been relegated to the back of the bench for a rainy day. Exacly same for me. Bought a 4lb jug when I started reloading. Only thing I use it for now is .380 otherwise it sits on the back of the shelf under the loading bench. I tried a little for sub sonic 223 loads, but will probably go with trail boss if I make any more of those. I get WSF and WST for most of my 45 and 9mm loads now. |
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Rifle loads are published right on the Hodgdon site for Titegroup. Subsonic of course.
Titegroup has the HIGHEST nitro content of current pistol powders (37%). That is why it burns so hot. DO NOT USE WITH BARE LEAD! The "muzzle blast" OP noted is amplified indoors; it is hardly noticeable outside. For .45, a better choice is Solo 1000 - which can even be used with lead as it is SINGLE BASE. Another great .45 choice is Clays, although it is double base. For you silencer guys, Titegroup under a 9mm 147 JHP or TMJ is an excellent load. |
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Might be the only time I load the 45 with TG. Picking up some Longshot today, ordered 500 230 gr Meisters from Midway yesterday. Will relegate the TG to 38 only. TG is good for 38 too & the benefit is that TG is not "position sensitive" in the case the way Bullseye is. Use TG ONLY WITH JACKETED or TMJ'd bullets. "Longshot" has a nick-name: "Loud-Shot" Its good powder, but if you were hoping to avoid the concussion from TG, well I wish you luck. Personally, for 45 I'd choose regular Clays, Solo 1000, Winchester 231/Hodgdon HP-38, "E3" , or Vihta Vouri N-310, N-318 or N-320 for your purposes. |
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In a perfect world, I'd go with a different powder. Have to go with what I can find.
Blast isn't an issue, just amazed at the difference in blast between the Blazer/WWB I'd been shooting and the hand loads. My wife ran about five or six mags through the 1911 Saturday, shot it pretty darn good. So the recoil, etc wasn't THAT bad. |
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Titegroup is the only thing I have used for 9mm, 38, or 45 in 3 years. Great for FMJ, plated, or coated bullets. It has worked fine for straight lead in 9mm but was pretty smokey. I shot 7 rounds very quickly on plates once and had the RO beside me coughing...
I love Titegroup. |
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I am a Bullseye man. I have tried TightGroup on several occasions and I am just not a fan of it.
It meters great and is super economical to shoot but it has just a few characteristics that can't stand. The "soot" that it produces is a major pain in the a$$. It is a brownish gray film that seems just coat the muzzle like an old dogs face and get into any place that has oil/lube and just soaks it up until the sludge causes the gun no longer function. I have seen many shooters on long courses of fire start to have failures in the last stages due to fouling, usually 250-300 round courses of fire. With that said, it seems that it appears to be cleaner than Bullseye. The cases are not as dirty and the dirt in the gun is much less but Bullseye does not soot/foul up nearly as bad. I have never had the failures due to "gumminess" so I assume that the fouling is different somehow and my buddies and I were both shooting the same high end 1911's using the same lube and bullets so the only difference was the powder. I had a few guys try Bullseye and they agreed that it performed differently and they liked it but they went back because TightGroup was cheaper. The other issue is thermal as stated before. When someone is shooting TightGroup, I HATE policing their brass. It is always ragingly hot and I know that my buddies who use it complain about their guns being hot by the end of matches. I have seen the brass melt the blue brass catching tarps from HF. I also find the soot to be difficult to remove from most guns. I actually used a buffing wheel and rouge to clean my revolver cylinders because I could not scrub the fouling off. |
| Well, seeing as how this is the powder I managed to find and acquire for my .38 Spl project, this thread has given me something to think about. I have 250 Berry's cast 125gr FP on order, and was gonna just use those with a starting load of 3.2gr Titegroup. But I'd rather avoid the lead vaporization, so you've got me thinking I gotta order some plated or gas check bullets. This hobby is rapidly getting more expensive exactly when my wife and I are discussing her quitting her nursing job, and becoming a full-time homemaker and homeschool teacher. Sigh. |
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Well, seeing as how this is the powder I managed to find and acquire for my .38 Spl project, this thread has given me something to think about. I have 250 Berry's cast 125gr FP on order, and was gonna just use those with a starting load of 3.2gr Titegroup. But I'd rather avoid the lead vaporization, so you've got me thinking I gotta order some plated or gas check bullets. This hobby is rapidly getting more expensive exactly when my wife and I are discussing her quitting her nursing job, and becoming a full-time homemaker and homeschool teacher. Sigh. I would go ahead try them and see what happens. I don't think a lower pressure load will cause very much vaporization. |
| My go to is Power Pistol but I have not been able to get my hands on any. I found some of this today, so I picked up two pounds. No other choice at this point, but I remembered this thread. Will load some up this weekend and check it out. .40S&W out of a M&P full size. I'm using 165gr plated flat nosed in mixed brass. CCI primers. Planning on starting at 4.5gr and working from there... Unless someone has some better info. Just all around target loads for steel and paper. |
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Well, seeing as how this is the powder I managed to find and acquire for my .38 Spl project, this thread has given me something to think about. I have 250 Berry's cast 125gr FP on order, and was gonna just use those with a starting load of 3.2gr Titegroup. But I'd rather avoid the lead vaporization, so you've got me thinking I gotta order some plated or gas check bullets. This hobby is rapidly getting more expensive exactly when my wife and I are discussing her quitting her nursing job, and becoming a full-time homemaker and homeschool teacher. Sigh. Any of the "coated" bullets like Bayou Bullets or Blue Bullets are good, no barrel leading, no smoke or plated like Barry's . |
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I find it to be a little snappy on my sig but not so much on my TRP. Good powder tho and accurate. My experience is total opposite with my Sig. .40. Even .2gn over max, still had light recoil. But accuracy really sucked, as in 10" at 25yds. off hand. I just couldn't get a "Tite Group" out of it for some reason. Pistol, and cases were hotter, though. My Sig does much better with Longshot. It's a little more powder but great accuracy, and the recoil is mediocre. Not to snappy, and not to soft. |
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