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Posted: 3/2/2014 5:27:33 AM EDT
| Mods if this is the wrong place, please move if. I'm wondering if anybody has successfully reloaded steel case ammo being it is the most available surplus ammo |
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I don't want to come across as a sarcastic prick, but if you took the time to google your thread title you the entire first page of results is about how people successfully reload steel cases. that's like saying 'I don't mean to be rude' (otherwise you wouldn't have to precede with a disclaimer before you say whatever rude thing you want to say ) :-) The 'search' feature does have a lot to not like about it. A good link for reloading steel case There is another link within the thread as well. |
Yes, 45 and 223 boxer primed... soft steel doesn't hurt the dies. I dry tumble to clean. If you wet tumble, they rust a bit while drying, so you have to dry them off quick. Here's some of my 45s... btw you probably only get 2 or 3 reloadings out of them before they crack.
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that's like saying 'I don't mean to be rude' (otherwise you wouldn't have to precede with a disclaimer before you say whatever rude thing you want to say ) :-) The 'search' feature does have a lot to not like about it. A good link for reloading steel case There is another link within the thread as well. Quoted:
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I don't want to come across as a sarcastic prick, but if you took the time to google your thread title you the entire first page of results is about how people successfully reload steel cases. that's like saying 'I don't mean to be rude' (otherwise you wouldn't have to precede with a disclaimer before you say whatever rude thing you want to say ) :-) The 'search' feature does have a lot to not like about it. A good link for reloading steel case There is another link within the thread as well. I dislike the site search function. I googled the thread title and came up with numerous links to reloading steel cases. Just pointing out that five seconds of research would have saved a redundant thread. |
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Quoted: Well hopefully a new face in the reloading forum :-) Seeing he just joined in February and general responses (some) were not too nice, I emailed him a friendly welcome to our group, answered his question. It didn't hurt that he's a GA boy as well :-) OP will be treated much better now that thread is in the Reloading Forum. Welcome OP, steel Berdan primed cases can also be reloaded. 7.62x39 with home cast bullets.   223 and 45 ACP Boxer primed steel cases. 45 ACP with home cast bullets. To load Boxer steel cases, normal lube and sizing die are used. Debur the case mouth. No the soft steel case doesn't ruin the hardened steel dies. Nothing different from brass cases except steel cases don't need trimming and don't stretch. |
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Quoted: Great thread. Any reason steel cases cant be used to set up dies, to avoid ruining brass? (getting back in the game after a long hiatus ) Once your sizing die is set up, every new headstamp sized should be checked for proper sizing. Sometimes you need to tweek the die up or down slightly when changing headstamps. Due to the different spring back with different cases. If you are over sizing, (pushing shoulder back .004 to .006) you won't notice the difference.
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I size steel and brass cases with the same sizing die. Set to push shoulder back .003. Once your sizing die is set up, every new headstamp sized should be checked for proper sizing. Sometimes you need to tweek the die up or down slightly when changing headstamps. Due to the different spring back with different cases. If you are over sizing, (pushing shoulder back .004 to .006) you won't notice the difference. Quoted:
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Great thread. Any reason steel cases cant be used to set up dies, to avoid ruining brass? (getting back in the game after a long hiatus ) Once your sizing die is set up, every new headstamp sized should be checked for proper sizing. Sometimes you need to tweek the die up or down slightly when changing headstamps. Due to the different spring back with different cases. If you are over sizing, (pushing shoulder back .004 to .006) you won't notice the difference. Thanks df Is all steel the same: tula as goor as wolf? |
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Thanks df Is all steel the same: tula as goor as wolf? Quoted:
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Great thread. Any reason steel cases cant be used to set up dies, to avoid ruining brass? (getting back in the game after a long hiatus ) Once your sizing die is set up, every new headstamp sized should be checked for proper sizing. Sometimes you need to tweek the die up or down slightly when changing headstamps. Due to the different spring back with different cases. If you are over sizing, (pushing shoulder back .004 to .006) you won't notice the difference. Thanks df Is all steel the same: tula as goor as wolf? Older Wolf Boxer primed steel cases were made by Tula. It's basically the same cases. For range pick ups, I just magnetically pick up the cases and sort out the Berdan primed cases. This is not to say "all steel is the same." There are several Russian cartridge makers who make steel cased ammo for import to the US, and Tula is only one (and the only one I know that makes Boxer primed cases). Barnaul (the "Bear" lines of ammo and Academy's "Monarch Steel" lines) and Golden Tiger are other brands that are well regarded, but they're all Berdan primed. I should point out that even Tula only makes .223, .40, and .45 cases with Boxer primers - to my knowledge, all of their other rounds are Berdan primed (including, sadly, their 9mm and .30 Carbine). |
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I have some golden tiger 223 that is boxer primed and I have reloaded. On the 223 there is a good chance of a split neck after the 2nd firing. The 45 app loads great and I have some that had been fired 5 times.
Used to be all steel 45 and most 223 were boxer, but you have to look now. I always pick up 45 steel if it is not rusted at the range just like the brass. |
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Quoted: Thanks df Is all steel the same: tula as goor as wolf? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Great thread. Any reason steel cases cant be used to set up dies, to avoid ruining brass? (getting back in the game after a long hiatus ) Once your sizing die is set up, every new headstamp sized should be checked for proper sizing. Sometimes you need to tweek the die up or down slightly when changing headstamps. Due to the different spring back with different cases. If you are over sizing, (pushing shoulder back .004 to .006) you won't notice the difference. Thanks df Is all steel the same: tula as goor as wolf? |
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I've reloaded a fair amount of older Wolf boxer primed 223. Works well, I only reload it once since I normally use it for events where brass pick up may not be possible. Funny how this subject pops up whenever I talk to someone about 3-gun or similar events. I was discussing this with Creekrider a couple of weeks ago. |
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I set my dies up and run brass and steel cases through all together (.45 acp). I haven't had any split yet but I'm also not counting reloads.
I have kept a bit of .223 steel cases but have not yet reloaded them (I keep telling myself I need to do it, but I haven't got around to it.) If I was going to reload the .223 cases, I'd chamfer the case mouths. On the .45 acp I just bell the case mouth like they were brass. |
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The part I highlighted is incorrect. A myth repeated by folks who have never loaded steel cases. <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Berdan%20primed/P7240252.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Berdan%20primed/P7240252.jpg</a> Quoted:
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I have done this in the 7.62 x 39 just to see if it can be done. You will need a spcecial decapping tool for Berdan primers. also they say the stell cases can be hard on reloading dies, so lube them up pretty good. John The part I highlighted is incorrect. A myth repeated by folks who have never loaded steel cases. <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Berdan%20primed/P7240252.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Berdan%20primed/P7240252.jpg</a> man you have some old powders there! it's good you don't live in GA. I'd probably get into casting if I came over and saw your stuff. |
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Didn't want to start a new thread, will piggyback a question (or 2) here.
I looked back to find my answer, no luck. Are steel .223 case capacities similar to brass cases? Do you guys use the same load data as brass? I'm not planning on hotrodding any of these, deprimed a few and thought I'd load'em (just for grins), might as well. |
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Didn't want to start a new thread, will piggyback a question (or 2) here. I looked back to find my answer, no luck. Are steel .223 case capacities similar to brass cases? Do you guys use the same load data as brass? I'm not planning on hotrodding any of these, deprimed a few and thought I'd load'em (just for grins), might as well. I load them exactly like my brass they are actually more accurate reloaded than the manufactured version. I was getting about 1.5 Moa at 100 yards and not even trying. |
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Quoted: man you have some old powders there! it's good you don't live in GA. I'd probably get into casting if I came over and saw your stuff. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have done this in the 7.62 x 39 just to see if it can be done. You will need a spcecial decapping tool for Berdan primers. also they say the stell cases can be hard on reloading dies, so lube them up pretty good. John The part I highlighted is incorrect. A myth repeated by folks who have never loaded steel cases. <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Berdan%20primed/P7240252.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Berdan%20primed/P7240252.jpg</a> man you have some old powders there! it's good you don't live in GA. I'd probably get into casting if I came over and saw your stuff. |
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Yes I reload Tula boxer primed steel cases. Check out the reloading section there are a few write ups about it. Yep same here. I reload all the boxer primed steel I get my hands on. I generally load them light and use for close range shooting or shooting in snow when I don't want to worry about retrieving spent cases. |
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Quoted: Didn't want to start a new thread, will piggyback a question (or 2) here. I looked back to find my answer, no luck. Are steel .223 case capacities similar to brass cases? Yes Do you guys use the same load data as brass? Yes I'm not planning on hotrodding any of these, deprimed a few and thought I'd load'em (just for grins), might as well. |
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