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Posted: 12/17/2013 6:07:56 AM EDT
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What is your definition of a master reloader? Is it years of experience, number of rounds loaded, number of people you have introduced the hobby to, number of posts here, NRA certification, group size at 1000 yards, some combination of the above? Something entirely different, or is there even such a thing. Just pondering, though it would make for a good conversation.
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...or is there even such a thing. There isn't. This. The day you stop learning should never come. And once you think you know it all, that's when you're likely soon to have a catastrophic fuck up of sorts. I think we all catch ourselves making rookie mistakes from time to time. I know I do. Been reloading for 10 years so far. |
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Quoted: What is your definition of a master reloader? Is it years of experience, number of rounds loaded, number of people you have introduced the hobby to, number of posts here, NRA certification, group size at 1000 yards, some combination of the above? Something entirely different, or is there even such a thing. Just pondering, though it would make for a good conversation. Brian People can call themselves anything. I just call myself experienced, and freely admit I don't know everything. You can learn a lot by reading this forum on a regular basis. I do feel that I have the basics down fairly well. |
| I learned to reload from my father in law who has been doing it since he was seven who learned from his father who had also been doing since he was a child. There isn't a single one of us from this group that isn't constantly buying new manuals and sharing information. I still get called neurotic for my case prep by friends but I don't ever want to get cocky. |
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There are a couple of on line sham schools that pass out certificates that make that claim. How the hell they could without face to face interaction escapes me.
A real master will be proficient in every aspect, probably including new cartridge development to some extent, but will certainly be able to teach the craft, too. Proficient means the outcome is predictable, and not in the exploding gun way! |
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Just a noob here with the aspiration to become competent. This forum is full of great wisdom from those that have been doing it for a long time and are capable of expertly sharing that wealth for our benefit and it's greatly appreciated.
I consider them mentor reloaders and always look for their responses to the various posts. |
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Just a noob here with the aspiration to become competent. This forum is full of great wisdom from those that have been doing it for a long time and are capable of expertly sharing that wealth for our benefit and it's greatly appreciated. I consider them mentor reloaders and always look for their responses to the various posts. About 99% of the advice here comes from the mistakes everyone made. |
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i have been reloading close to 10 years as well and ever time i come here the people from this forum teach me something new.
i was reloading what i like to call match ammo, no stone was unturned, ( well for semi auto loading any way ) then then some one introduced me to the rcbs precision mic to measure brass and how far your setting the shoulder back, lol how i loaded with out it is crazy. i do make simple retard mistakes its mainly things like primers flipping on me, i dont catch it for a few stages and have to then pull the ammo down, i hate that but it happens |
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Just a noob here with the aspiration to become competent. This forum is full of great wisdom from those that have been doing it for a long time and are capable of expertly sharing that wealth for our benefit and it's greatly appreciated. I consider them mentor reloaders and always look for their responses to the various posts. About 99% of the advice here comes from the mistakes everyone made. This. Also, you only learn by doing. |
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Just a noob here with the aspiration to become competent. This forum is full of great wisdom from those that have been doing it for a long time and are capable of expertly sharing that wealth for our benefit and it's greatly appreciated. I consider them mentor reloaders and always look for their responses to the various posts. About 99% of the advice here comes from the mistakes everyone made. Bingo, and we come here to learn and share. |
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self proclaimed ego ahole agreed. i consider myself a halfway knowledgeable reloader... a safe reloader, and a careful reloader. As always, I learn things from time to time, and try to gleen some knowledge from those that do things differently or have other experiences than myself. |
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I've been reloading since I was 15 12, soaking up everything I can along the way for 28 32 years now and I still learn new things on here and other reloading forums all the time. No master reloader here, just experienced and looking to learn more. Based on my hope to make it another 40ish years, I should die with about 70 years of reloading experience. Unless something drastic changes, I still doubt I would call myself a master. |
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Not really sure. It might be like when you are very good at fishing. Especially putting bait on hooks. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I was going to post something like that, but thought the better Cooth, I doesn't has it...;) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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...or is there even such a thing. There isn't. This.. even the "old hands" at this game still learn new things all the time. There certainly are some guys that seem to know more of course... but I never trust any one man's recitation on the subject. Trust, but verify. |
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My perspective on this is summed up as, people sharing what they know.
Sometimes the posters are right. This is usually due to experience and a lot of trial and error. Other times people share what they know to be correct but their understanding is imperfect or flawed. When and if they make a mistake in their posts, others correct the error. It is rare to have someone intentionally mislead others in a forum like this. This is the hive mind. |
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My mentor was my God Father.
He got me into reloading when I was 10 yrs old. I've never bought factory ammunition for my hunting rifles and rarely any for my pistols. I reloaded on a single stage press, but I when reloading pistol rounds that was tedious. After college and after getting my own place I bought a Hornady LNL AP progressive press. Now I can easily reload 100's of pistol rounds in no time. After he died I inherited a lot of his equipment, dies, and brass. I'm still learning about other aspects of reloading every day. Internet forums are a great way to share knowledge about reloading. Especially for the new people who are just now starting out from scratch. We need to accommodate them as much as possible. They are fellow shooters looking to save ammo money or looking to produce custom ammo for their guns. |
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I've handloaded over 170,000rds on both my 550B and 650 in the last 12 years, read a ton of 'what not to do' articles, written up a few articles myself here (Cheap Tips and Tricks For Dillon 550B and XL650s, One Man's Reloading Steps for Both Dillon 550B and XL650 with Casefeeder, CURE the Indexing Jump and Resulting Powder Spills in Your 650!) but I still consider myself a beginner. Every day I learn something from someone. |
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I've handloaded over 170,000rds on both my 550B and 650 in the last 12 years, read a ton of 'what not to do' articles, written up a few articles myself here (Cheap Tips and Tricks For Dillon 550B and XL650s, One Man's Reloading Steps for Both Dillon 550B and XL650 with Casefeeder, CURE the Indexing Jump and Resulting Powder Spills in Your 650!) but I still consider myself a beginner. Every day I learn something from someone. Sir, I haven't a clue how many rounds I've reloaded since I began back in the '70s but I do continue to learn from others, yourself included. I reload ammo in seven different rifle calibers and seven different pistol cartridges. I do agree with AeroE, ie: most of what is posted on this forum has it's origins in somebody's mistake. The NRA used to publish a monthly periodical titled Shooting Sports USA (it's available online now) that introduced me to guys like Glen Zediker. When I was living in Italy they published one of his articles titled Loading for the M14. Being an avid high power rifle competitor with an M1A at the time I was greatly interested. The article enlightened me to ideas that had never even occurred to me. I got a Sinclair Int. catalog and learned to use many of the tools I never even knew I needed. I've since read a number of books by Mr. Zediker and recommend his articles highly although some people apparently don't like his style. I believe his article Reloading for the M14 is available on his web site. I too use both a Dillon XL650 and an RL550B in addition to two single stage presses. I have an extensive range of reloading equipment ranging from precision micrometers to brass tumblers, swagers, and trimmers. However there is much I do not know. "Master Reloader"? I don't think so. 7zero1 out. |
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