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Posted: 2/21/2012 7:40:11 PM EDT
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I'm not confident I'm using the RCBS Pocket Swager properly. Can someone please take a look at the pics and provide some feedback? The first picture is of a Hornady round that I don't believe had a primer crimp. The second is an 89LC and the third is an 04 LC. Both of the latter have been run through the swager. I've also included pics of the primer pockets. Using the hand primer I'm able to put a primer in the cases with about the same amount of effort.
http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/Hornady1.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/Hornady-2.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/89LC-1.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/89LC-2.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/04LC-1.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/04LC-2.jpg Thanks, Brian |
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So what is the problem?
You said you are able to seat a primer in the LC cases with the same effort as the uncrimped civvie brass. That is the goal of using the RCBS decrimiper. FWIW, I never had much luck with that decrimper. I bent that butter soft stem a couple times, but with less effort I couldn't remove the crimp. |
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RCBS's swager works much easier if you use a light dab of case sizing lube on the swager head. Otherwise you damn near have to beat the handle on the press to release the case.
You must adjust the depth for each brand of brass and run them seperated by headstamps. Too much variation in depth of swaging ocurrs if you swage mixed headstamp cases, some will get no swaging at all, others may damage the case head from too much pressure. |
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Quoted: Yup, that's exactly what happened to me the first time I used this on LC cases. I had to use a cheater bar on my press handle to break the case free. Lesson learned, now I wipe the swage head with Imperial wax, no issues.RCBS's swager works much easier if you use a light dab of case sizing lube on the swager head. Otherwise you damn near have to beat the handle on the press to release the case. You must adjust the depth for each brand of brass and run them seperated by headstamps. Too much variation in depth of swaging ocurrs if you swage mixed headstamp cases, some will get no swaging at all, others may damage the case head from too much pressure. |
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Quoted: I'm not confident I'm using the RCBS Pocket Swager properly. Can someone please take a look at the pics and provide some feedback? The first picture is of a Hornady round that I don't believe had a primer crimp. The second is an 89LC and the third is an 04 LC. Both of the latter have been run through the swager. I've also included pics of the primer pockets. Using the hand primer I'm able to put a primer in the cases with about the same amount of effort. http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/Hornady1.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/Hornady-2.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/89LC-1.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/89LC-2.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/04LC-1.jpg http://www.got-boost.net/reloading/images/swager/04LC-2.jpg Thanks, Brian Going by the pix you supplied, note that the case stands up a bit in relation to the swaging spud in the last 2 pix. I prefer to see the flat base of the spud just kiss the bottom of the shell casing so that max swaging has occurred. As mentioned, lubing the spud helps a great deal, but MAKE SURE to remove all lube from the primer pocker prior to priming. |
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Yes, and that is why I'm concerned. Even after adjusting the swager for each year of LC brass and running them through the swager they don't fit back on the button flush. They aren't that hard to get off the button and they are flush before they come off but they don't fit right back on. I've tried it with some case lube and that seems to have made no difference. I've made small adjustments with the swager as well. Thoughts?
Brian |
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The only thing you need to be concerned with is whether the swaging button completly enters the primer pocket. Simply screwing the the adjustment screw to make this happen and locking it in place for each brand of brass is all that is needed. Don't swage any further than just flush with the bottom of the case head.
Some brass can use a twice through method. I've had to swage, release, rotate the case 180 degrees and swage again on some 7.62x39mm brass. It was very hard and did not want to give. This may be your solution. Make sure little clips or rings of brass haven't formed inside the primer pocket. As long as the primers can be seated without undue force you'll be fine. |
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Yeah brass is fairly soft and springy, I would not worry that they don't 'sit' on the button after you size it.
The point is to mash the crimp ring, and round the entry point. I can do this with very little force on my setup. You can hand prime to test, or I use a 4x lighted magnifiier to spot check. +1 to sort by headstamp. |
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