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Posted: 12/15/2011 4:21:29 AM EDT
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Unique doesn't seem to be quite the powder for it, whether loading Spl or Mag. I moved to AA No.5 for Spl, which does a very good job. Roughly $70/$80 per 1lb of powder in the UK, so buying a wide selection to experiment with would be prohibitively expensive.
The bullets are all RNFP - 200gn, 210gn, 240gn - no-name re-branded stuff. No quality pistol bullets sold here. I would say they're fairly similar to the cheap plated bullets you would purchase in America, and quite likely made by an American company. The revolver is one of the hunter/silhouette type models with the 12" inch barrel. Aside from the barrel length, it probably isn't very different to the usual models they offer. These were sold in America at one point, perhaps someone else might own one? I'd like to load full-powered Magnum for it. Loads for the 240gn bullet would preferable, but not essential. Thanks very much. (Didn't get a response in the Taurus forum, so this is the best bet). |
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Quoted: Unique doesn't seem to be quite the powder for it, whether loading Spl or Mag. I moved to AA No.5 for Spl, which does a very good job. Roughly $70/$80 per 1lb of powder in the UK, so buying a wide selection to experiment with would be prohibitively expensive. The bullets are all RNFP - 200gn, 210gn, 240gn - no-name re-branded stuff. No quality pistol bullets sold here. I would say they're fairly similar to the cheap plated bullets you would purchase in America, and quite likely made by an American company. The revolver is one of the hunter/silhouette type models with the 12" inch barrel. Aside from the barrel length, it probably isn't very different to the usual models they offer. These were sold in America at one point, perhaps someone else might own one? I'd like to load full-powered Magnum for it. Loads for the 240gn bullet would preferable, but not essential. Thanks very much. (Didn't get a response in the Taurus forum, so this is the best bet). Many plated bullets here in the US have velocity restrictions of 1,200 fps or less. For full power .44 Magnum Loads, look at Alliant 2400, Winchester 296/Hodgdon H-110, and Accurate AA-9. The nice thing about 2400 and AA-9 is that Large Pistol Magnum primers are not required. AA-9 gives (at least to my eye) less muzzle blast and flash than W-296/H-110. With the 240gr bullet, start with 19.5gr of 2400 and do NOT go above 22.0gr. I use CCI-300 Large Pistol Primers, mostly. With the 240gr bullet, start with 17.0.gr of AA-9 and do NOT go above 21.0gr. Again, I use CCI-300 Large Pistol Primers. |
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2400(alliant) will work well
I am not sure what happens to plated bullets when you push then real hard. Heavy loads in a revolver generally work better with fairly moderate to heavy crimps which can also distort or cut plated bullets . You might be better off if you can find some regular jacketed or hard cast lead bullets. The next obvious question is do you know if the bullets themselves (obviously not loaded ammo) are a regulated item on your end? Could one of us box up some bullets and ship them to you? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Unique doesn't seem to be quite the powder for it, whether loading Spl or Mag. I moved to AA No.5 for Spl, which does a very good job. Roughly $70/$80 per 1lb of powder in the UK, so buying a wide selection to experiment with would be prohibitively expensive. The bullets are all RNFP - 200gn, 210gn, 240gn - no-name re-branded stuff. No quality pistol bullets sold here. I would say they're fairly similar to the cheap plated bullets you would purchase in America, and quite likely made by an American company. The revolver is one of the hunter/silhouette type models with the 12" inch barrel. Aside from the barrel length, it probably isn't very different to the usual models they offer. These were sold in America at one point, perhaps someone else might own one? I'd like to load full-powered Magnum for it. Loads for the 240gn bullet would preferable, but not essential. Thanks very much. (Didn't get a response in the Taurus forum, so this is the best bet). Many plated bullets here in the US have velocity restrictions of 1,200 fps or less. For full power .44 Magnum Loads, look at Alliant 2400, Winchester 296/Hodgdon H-110, and Accurate AA-9. The nice thing about 2400 and AA-9 is that Large Pistol Magnum primers are not required. AA-9 gives (at least to my eye) less muzzle blast and flash than W-296/H-110. With the 240gr bullet, start with 19.5gr of 2400 and do NOT go above 22.0gr. I use CCI-300 Large Pistol Primers, mostly. With the 240gr bullet, start with 17.0.gr of AA-9 and do NOT go above 21.0gr. Again, I use CCI-300 Large Pistol Primers. Ah, memory jogged. That's my 44 powder as well. |
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Inexpensive bullets.... may not be wise to run high pressure loading unless you work it up very slowly and only if you are experienced in that sort of load testing.
Even though they are plated, they are not the same as silhouette or hunting bullets which were designed for higher pressure and velocity. Think more along the lines of cheap is for plinking ammo. If you want to take your full size bbl revolver and run it to its capabilities, you are going to want to get better projectiles. Sorry to hear about the costs, that sounds oppressive. Some of the cowboy action shooters use less expensive bullets and they run loads similar in the .45 Long Colt. W231, 2400, H110, are all excellent for .44 and span different ranges and purposes. Do you have a Loadbooks volume for the .44 mag? In one book you can see a compilation of many brands of bullets, powders, and loads. |
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If you saw one of your bullets in two the plated will be quite thin and the jacketed quite a bit thicker. Not that this is going to help you unless you have a known sample to compare it to.
The reason I like 2400 is that it has good velocity and great accuracy at the higher levels with good acceptable accuracy at medium levels |
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Here are some photos of the bullets. As mentioned, they have no manufacturers information, no matter where I purchase them from. My assumption that they are plated is correct, or was that wrong? These are the 240gn. This thread has reminded me that I did once try some Mag loads with 2400. They shot fairly well, but the pistol had standard irons at that point (a bit too thick for precise shooting). 2400 seems like a good option to try once again. <a href="http://s316.photobucket.com/albums/mm329/KoriumLG/?action=view¤t=001-14.jpg" target="_blank">http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm329/KoriumLG/th_001-14.jpg</a> <a href="http://s316.photobucket.com/albums/mm329/KoriumLG/?action=view¤t=002-11.jpg" target="_blank">http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm329/KoriumLG/th_002-11.jpg</a> Quoted:The next obvious question is do you know if the bullets themselves (obviously not loaded ammo) are a regulated item on your end? Could one of us box up some bullets and ship them to you?
That's a very kind offer, but I believe ITAR(?) would prevent them being exportable from the US without a permit. Only expanding ammunition such as HP or SP would be illegal to import here, but Customs might still cause trouble over other types. Midway UK actually has export permits for a decent selection of bullets. They may have some Sierra on offer. Prices are always high, and they import them to order, often leading to long delivery times. Quoted:
Do you have a Loadbooks volume for the .44 mag? In one book you can see a compilation of many brands of bullets, powders, and loads. No. Hornady 7th edition. I don't even use Hornady bullets due to low availability, but the manual works fairly well with due care. The base of that bullet on the right looks like a cast bullet that was plated. Because of the sprue cut off on the lower right hand side of the bullet base. If it were me, I would load them to cast bullet velocities following Hornadays lead bullet data. |
Those do look similar to some plated bullets I've had... I treat "plated" as cast lead that is easier to clean up after. 
Keep your velocity in the cast bullet range and you'll be good. I keep my cast loads around 1300fps and haven't had trouble with leading (yet.) |
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