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Posted: 11/10/2011 7:28:23 AM EDT
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Will be finishing up .223 and will be changing the machine to start reloading 30-06. I have the dies, caliber conversion kit and case gauge.
My question has to do with changing the tool head. How many get quick tool head exchange? I am thinking about just getting a seperate tool head and powder die. Thinking about getting a seperate powder bar as well so that I can leave the one set for the next time I go to make .223. What do you all do? Anything else I should consider doing before I submit my order with Dillon? |
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I have tool heads and measures for the calibers I reload the most (223, 45, 357). I have separate tool heads with one measure and several powder bars for calibers I don't load as much (40, 10mm, 38 Special and 44).
If I find a good deal on a used powder measure or just have some extra dollars laying around, I'll get additional powder measures. |
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I have separate tool heads with dies and PM already mounted. If you can afford it, it's the way to go. Having just recently purchased a 650 and going thru all the set-up and learning process, I say Dryflash speaks the truth. The whole point of the 650 with a case feeder is speed and efficiency....why not have all the changeover stuff pre-set and ready to rock???? Compared to my single stage experience, the 650 is like going warp speed 
Keep your eyes on Brianenos.com in the classifieds for Dillon stuff that are good deals if you don't mind waitiing around for them to pop up. |
If you buy a toolhead, stand, and powder die separately from Dillon they cost a total of $26.95+$19.95+$10.95=$57.85. If you buy the Quick Change kit it includes all three plus a powder measure for $101.95. I'd rather have things set up than save the $44.10 and have to switch over and then reset each time and I have 7 Quick Change Kits. |
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I'm just running a seperate tool head for each caliber with powder die. If your issue is your billfold like my issue was, this was workable
and still maintain some effiency. Changing PM and adjusting powder bar takes about 20 minutes if I really want to dial a charge in and verify charge weight half a dozen times. Having dies pre-set in tool head is where the pay off is at. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I have no problems spending money on a good value. Guess really that should have been the question.
Is it a good value to buy the quick change as oppossed to doing doing a piece meal swap where you don't get another PM and a stand? Reading everyone's feedback it seems like it is the way to go. Just wish the change from small primer and to large would be as simple as pull to small pins. 
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I have no problems spending money on a good value. Guess really that should have been the question. Is it a good value to buy the quick change as oppossed to doing doing a piece meal swap where you don't get another PM and a stand? Reading everyone's feedback it seems like it is the way to go. Just wish the change from small primer and to large would be as simple as pull to small pins. That's why you get two 650s! Come on, you really know you want to! 
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I have no problems spending money on a good value. Guess really that should have been the question. Is it a good value to buy the quick change as oppossed to doing doing a piece meal swap where you don't get another PM and a stand? Reading everyone's feedback it seems like it is the way to go. Just wish the change from small primer and to large would be as simple as pull to small pins. That's why you get two 650s! Come on, you really know you want to!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/schenninge/GUN%20STUFF/20110804205831.jpg I have thought of getting two presses but what about just getting a seperate primer system instead of a whole new press? I would have to remove the shell plate anyway and that would be just two screws to switch from large to small primer. Not only would it be cheaper and save space but it would mean less to move when I have to PCS. Thoughts? |
| Yes, it would be much more economical to have two primer systems. I noted when I only had the one 650, it seemed I'd have to really fiddle around with the primer system when I switched them over. When going from large primers to small it the primer alignment would really be off. Why? I don't know. with two presses I haven't had one single problems with priming. A big reason that I got another press is I shoot a lot of 223 and 45 ACP and it is just really nice to have presses set up for each. |
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