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Posted: 2/5/2011 1:02:36 PM EDT
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I see it listed in their guides for both .223 and 6.8 SPC.
I was also actually suprised it listed a load for M855, which it seems people ask for (myself included) eventually. So Midway has it on sale at $13 a lb and a limit of 10 lbs per customer. So if I order 10 lbs, boosts the cost to $15.50 per lb Bottom line - I am asking the reloader veterans what their opinion of the powder is. I think I'll get 5 lbs no matter what - it fits my loading calibers. Thanks in advance for any light you care to shed on this powder. |
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Quoted: I see it listed in their guides for both .223 and 6.8 SPC. I was also actually suprised it listed a load for M855, which it seems people ask for (myself included) eventually. So Midway has it on sale at $13 a lb and a limit of 10 lbs per customer. So if I order 10 lbs, boosts the cost to $15.50 per lb Bottom line - I am asking the reloader veterans what their opinion of the powder is. I think I'll get 5 lbs no matter what - it fits my loading calibers. Thanks in advance for any light you care to shed on this powder. The "boost" to $15.50 per pound is hazmat and shipping. If you only order 5 lbs... it goes up again... I would not order less than the max amount (and nearly did yesterday). The only reason I didn't order some is that, well, I probably won't need any more powder this year (I've still got 24 lbs of TAC on the shelf), and that's just one more load I'd have to work up...  |
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It was the first powder I EVER used over 15 months ago and I ahavent been able to find it since. It worked very well. And was really accurrate with pulled M855 projectiles.
Here is a 10 shot group from 50 yards using uron sights, pulled M855 projectiles and 24.2gr AA2230 
I rested the non FF rail onto a box to shoot this group, and for me this is an amazing group because I suck with irons and cannot see shit using them. |
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It was the first powder I EVER used over 15 months ago and I ahavent been able to find it since. It worked very well. And was really accurrate with pulled M855 projectiles. Here is a 10 shot group from 50 yards using uron sights, pulled M855 projectiles and 24.2gr AA2230 http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g165/InfiniteGrim/Reloading/P1100012-1-1.jpg I rested the non FF rail onto a box to shoot this group, and for me this is an amazing group because I suck with irons and cannot see shit using them. What was your COAL and did you by chance get any chrony data? |
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The ones shot in that target are teh crimped on in this picture.
I didnt measure OAL but I measured consistent to the cannelure. 
Yes I painted the tips, I got really bored! This is the info I saved with it: SS109 Load....
Pulled LC M855, seated to almost top cannelure (see picture) cannelure 24.2gr(electric scale) AA2230 CCI #41 Military Primer LC 07 brass, once fired, no trimming or deburring. Length=1.762"-1.766" w/ primer |
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All I have ever used AA-2230 for is 223 with 55 and 62 gr FMJBT loads.
It works fine in these loads, easily the equal of BLC2 and H-335. It used to be the cheapest powder available locally, so I ran through a lot. Then Tac came along, and it's more accurate in my rifle, so I stocked up. (last years on sale powder) If I needed powder for 223, I would stock up on AA-2230. It's a ball powder that meters extremely well. |
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It works well for bullets up to the 60-69gr range. I have a load with a 60gr v-max that shoots very well using this powder. The price at Midway is a good one, if you buy the max. I tried it with 75 and 77gr bullets, and ran into issues. Things got hot fast. Accuracy was not that great. It's a bit too fast for the heavier bullets. For a standard 55 or 62 gr plinking load, it is a very good powder. Often when Midway puts this powder on sale, they put TAC on sale as well, keep your eyes peeled.  |
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I'm wondering why a local shop is not going to handle any of the Accurate powders anymore? I have been using 2230 and wanted a couple more lbs. and they said no more! My friend has eight lbs. and just dropped of a container for me. Wait what shop? A small local one in a guy's garage basically said his supplier stopped carrying it, even though he personally sold it well. |
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Arfcom never ceases to amaze me. This site is well-worth the cost of admission. Just placed an order for 2230 just now... Thanks OP... I have used 2230 and it works good for me... Just checked and Powder Valley has it cheap as well. I am lusting after a 8 lb jug of HP38, which is cheap over there ($108) |
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I see it listed in their guides for both .223 and 6.8 SPC. I was also actually suprised it listed a load for M855, which it seems people ask for (myself included) eventually. So Midway has it on sale at $13 a lb and a limit of 10 lbs per customer. So if I order 10 lbs, boosts the cost to $15.50 per lb Bottom line - I am asking the reloader veterans what their opinion of the powder is. I think I'll get 5 lbs no matter what - it fits my loading calibers. Thanks in advance for any light you care to shed on this powder. I can't speak for 6.8 loads but one of my favorite 223 loads is 25.0 grains of AA2230 over a 55 grain FMJBT. I find that the accuracy compared to TAC at 25.5 grains with the same bullet, case and primer gives a slight edge to the AA2230 with my rifles. |
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AA 2230 and x-termintator are my go to powders for 55 gr bullets. At that price, buy 10 pounds. X-T and 2230 are indeed the exact same powder. Can anyone else confirm this? Or give a source? I don't doubt it because they are both Western Powder. Does TAC have an accurate counterpart? Brett |
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AA 2230 and x-termintator are my go to powders for 55 gr bullets. At that price, buy 10 pounds. X-T and 2230 are indeed the exact same powder. Can anyone else confirm this? Or give a source? I don't doubt it because they are both Western Powder. Does TAC have an accurate counterpart? Brett Call 'em and tell us what they say. |
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223 Remington
Barrel: 24" ■ Twist: 1-12" ■ Primer: WSR ■ Bullet Diameter .224" For shorter barrels reduce velocity below as follows(ca): 20" -3.9%/-130Fps// 16" -9.0%/-300Fps X-Terminator 30 BAR HP 26.1 3,687 29.0 4,029 51,560 2.088 X-Terminator 34 VNE HP 26.6 3,665 29.5 4,006 53,570 2.125 X-Terminator 40 BRGR FBHP 23.9 3,451 26.5 3,772 54,360 2.210 X-Terminator 40 HDY V-Max 24.3 3,480 27.0 3,803 54,750 2.260 X-Terminator 40 NOS B-Tip 24.3 3,435 27.0 3,754 53,760 2.260 X-Terminator 40 SIE BK 24.3 3,459 27.0 3,780 54,640 2.260 X-Terminator 45 BAR BND-S BT 24.3 3,309 27.0 3,616 54,650 2.216 X-Terminator 45 BAR TSX-FB 24.1 3,276 26.8 3,580 54,560 2.208 X-Terminator 45 SIE SPT-V 23.2 3,296 25.8 3,602 54,960 2.222 X-Terminator 50 BAR TSX-FB 22.7 3,082 25.2 3,368 54,770 2.184 X-Terminator 50 BRGR FBHP-V 22.1 3,122 24.6 3,412 54,890 2.260 X-Terminator 50 HDY SPSX 22.1 3,093 24.5 3,380 54,740 2.180 X-Terminator 50 HDY V-Max 22.2 3,115 24.7 3,404 53,460 2.260 X-Terminator 50 HDY SP 22.4 3,128 24.9 3,419 54,760 2.226 X-Terminator 50 VNE SP 22.5 3,114 25.0 3,403 54,490 2.187 X-Terminator 50 SIE BK 22.9 3,143 25.4 3,435 54,160 2.260 X-Terminator 52 BRGR FBHP-V 22.1 3,088 24.6 3,375 54,950 2.260 X-Terminator 52 NOS HPBT-CC 22.1 3,059 24.6 3,343 53,360 2.226 X-Terminator 53 BAR XFB 22.3 3,015 24.8 3,295 54,700 2.202 X-Terminator 55 BAR TSX-FB 21.8 2,914 24.2 3,185 54,950 2.183 X-Terminator 55 BRGR FBHP-V 21.3 2,965 23.7 3,240 54,960 2.244 X-Terminator 55 HDY SPSX 21.4 2,949 23.8 3,223 54,100 2.195 X-Terminator 55 HDY V-Max 21.2 2,936 23.5 3,209 54,210 2.260 X-Terminator 55 NOS B-Tip 22.1 2,983 24.5 3,260 54,640 2.260 X-Terminator 55 SIE SBT 22.2 3,028 24.7 3,309 54,980 2.215 X-Terminator 55 SIE HPBT 22.2 3,007 24.7 3,286 54,760 2.160 X-Terminator 55 VNE HP 21.6 2,943 24.0 3,216 53,220 2.162 X-Terminator 55 VNE FMJ 22.5 3,024 25.0 3,305 54,250 2.223 X-Terminator 55 VNE SP 21.6 2,948 24.0 3,222 53,890 2.203 X-Terminator 60 NOS PART 21.2 2,836 23.6 3,099 54,350 2.205 X-Terminator 60 SIE HP 20.9 2,815 23.2 3,077 54,060 2.232 2230 30 BAR HP 26.1 3,687 29.0 4,029 51,560 2.088 2230 34 VNE HP 26.6 3,665 29.5 4,006 53,570 2.125 2230 36 BAR VG 25.6 3,510 28.5 3,820 53,086 2.190 2230 40 BRGR FBHP 23.9 3,451 26.5 3,772 54,360 2.210 2230 40 HDY V-Max 24.3 3,480 27.0 3,803 54,750 2.260 2230 40 NOS B-TIP 24.3 3,435 27.0 3,754 53,760 2.260 2230 40 SIE BK 24.3 3,459 27.0 3,780 54,640 2.260 2230 45 BAR BND-S 24.3 3,309 27.0 3,616 54,650 2.216 2230 45 BAR TSX-FB 24.1 3,276 26.8 3,580 54,560 2.208 2230 45 SIE SPT-V 23.2 3,296 25.8 3,602 54,990 2.222 2230 50 BAR TSX-FB 22.7 3,082 25.2 3,368 54,770 2.184 2230 50 BRGR FBHP-V 22.1 3,122 24.6 3,412 54,890 2.260 2230 50 HDY SPSX 22.1 3,093 24.5 3,380 54,740 2.180 2230 50 HDY V-Max 22.2 3,115 24.7 3,404 53,460 2.260 2230 50 HDY SP 22.4 3,128 24.9 3,419 54,760 2.226 2230 50 VNE SP 22.5 3,114 25.0 3,403 54,490 2.187 2230 50 SIE BK 22.9 3,143 25.4 3,435 54,160 2.260 2230 52 BRGR FBHP-V 22.1 3,088 24.6 3,375 54,990 2.260 2230 52 NOS CC 22.1 3,059 24.6 3,343 53,360 2.226 2230 53 BAR TSX-FB 22.3 3,015 24.8 3,295 54,700 2.202 2230 55 BAR TSX-FB 21.7 2,905 24.1 3,195 54,880 2.183 2230 55 BRGR FBHP-V 21.3 2,965 23.7 3,240 54,960 2.244 2230 55 HDY SPSX 21.4 2,949 23.8 3,223 54,100 2.195 2230 55 HDY V-Max 21.2 2,936 23.5 3,209 54,210 2.260 2230 55 NOS B-TIP 22.1 2,983 24.5 3,260 54,640 2.260 2230 55 SIE SBT 22.1 3,028 24.5 3,309 54,925 2.215 2230 55 SIE HPBT 22.2 3,007 24.7 3,286 54,760 2.160 2230 55 VNE HP 21.6 2,943 24.0 3,216 53,220 2.162 continued 223 Remington — continued Barrel: 24" ■ Twist: 1-12" ■ Primer: WSR ■ Bullet Diameter .224" For shorter barrels reduce velocity below as follows(ca): 20" -3.9%/-130Fps// 16" -9.0%/-300Fps 2230 55 VNE FMJ 22.5 3,024 25.0 3,305 54,250 2.223 2230 55 VNE SP 21.6 2,948 24.0 3,222 53,890 2.203 2230 60 NOS PART 21.2 2,836 23.6 3,099 54,350 2.205 2230 60 SIE HP 20.9 2,815 23.2 3,077 54,060 2.232 I didn't get ahold of Johan, so I am going to send him an email. But they are either identical, or they screw up the copy and paste more than I do. Brett |
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Brett,
Yes it’s the same burn rate so the same loads apply. You can use the loads for the 65gr Sierra SBT i.e. 21grains to 23.4grains. Regards Johan Loubser Ballistician Ramshot.Accurate Powders Tel: 406.234.0422 email: [email protected] WesternPowdersInc.Miles City.Montana. COMPANY WEBSITES/PRODUCTS: www.ramshot.com www.accuratepowder.com www.montanaxtreme.com www.blackhorn209.com Second part was start-MAX load for 223 with 64 grain Powerpoint bullet. Pretty damn fast email return. I might make that guy regret that
Brett |
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For shorter barrels reduce velocity below as follows(ca): 20" -3.9%/-130Fps// 16" -9.0%/-300Fps
Noob reloader here, ware it says -9.0% for 16" barrels, it means i should use 9% less powder for my 16" Ar? I just bought 10 lbs of this stuff, my first powder purchase, ill be using 55gr FMJ projectiles, ive been told to start my work up at 22.5 grains. Im not loading for super accuracy, just some decent plinking loads for the range.. Thoughts? ideas? |
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For shorter barrels reduce velocity below as follows(ca): 20" -3.9%/-130Fps// 16" -9.0%/-300Fps Noob reloader here, ware it says -9.0% for 16" barrels, it means i should use 9% less powder for my 16" Ar? I just bought 10 lbs of this stuff, my first powder purchase, ill be using 55gr FMJ projectiles, ive been told to start my work up at 22.5 grains. Im not loading for super accuracy, just some decent plinking loads for the range.. Thoughts? ideas? NO! It means expect to have a drop of about 9% in velocity with a shorter barrel. Load data does not change for different length barrels, velocity does. |
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For shorter barrels reduce velocity below as follows(ca): 20" -3.9%/-130Fps// 16" -9.0%/-300Fps Noob reloader here, ware it says -9.0% for 16" barrels, it means i should use 9% less powder for my 16" Ar? I just bought 10 lbs of this stuff, my first powder purchase, ill be using 55gr FMJ projectiles, ive been told to start my work up at 22.5 grains. Im not loading for super accuracy, just some decent plinking loads for the range.. Thoughts? ideas? NO! It means expect to have a drop of about 9% in velocity with a shorter barrel. Load data does not change for different length barrels, velocity does. Ooo, Ok, thanks i was about to break out the calculator |
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I'm wondering why a local shop is not going to handle any of the Accurate powders anymore? I have been using 2230 and wanted a couple more lbs. and they said no more! My friend has eight lbs. and just dropped of a container for me. Wait what shop? A small local one in a guy's garage basically said his supplier stopped carrying it, even though he personally sold it well. Piestrak's in Alden. |
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