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10/18/2010 8:44:42 AM EDT
I am pretty new to reloading - I have a Hornady Lock and Load with RCBS carbide dies.



I'm using 115 gr FMG Remington projectiles, with assorted Federal, MFS, and Winchester brass.



I got the press and dies setup, and did a first run of 15 rounds and then inspected them... most of the bullets have seated at a cant that is easily visible.  They chamber fine in my Sig P229, but I worry about accuracy.



What am I doing wrong?
10/18/2010 8:52:44 AM EDT
[#1]
Are you placing them on the case mouth straight?

Also, clean your seating die.  It's possible it's munged up with dirt.
10/18/2010 9:33:59 AM EDT
[#2]
Most likely, the seater plug doesn't fit the bullet very well. RCBS will alter a seating plug to fit that bullet profile. IIRC, you have to send three bullets and the seater plug.



Pretty common problem.
10/18/2010 10:39:52 AM EDT
[#3]
I have the same problem seating Hornady 124 gr 9mm XTPs does not fit the seating cup right and will load lopsided. If this is going to be your primary load have a seating stem made with a cup for the bullet you will use. Also check online some manufact. already have stems made for some bullets. Won't cost much at all to have one made.
10/18/2010 10:41:03 AM EDT
[#4]
Are you flaring the case mouth enough?  It should be opened up enough so that the base of the bullet can completely sit in the case.  

If you can, post some pics so we know exactly what you're looking at.

Also if you are looking at the "coke bottle" shape the side of the cases get after the projectile is seated, a small amount of that is normal, in fact I like it, since I can see that I have proper neck tension.
10/18/2010 11:35:37 AM EDT
[#5]
Glad you bought RCBS! Call their CS tech support and they'll walk you through it. If you need a different seater plug they'll probably mail you one FREE.. If not they'll diagnose the problem for you. EXCELLENT CS with them.
10/18/2010 12:09:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the replies - I will post a pic when I get home from work.



This is interesting - I think the problem of the dies not matching the bullets is spot on.  I had wondered about the case not being flared enough to set the bullet in straight too.



I guess I need to choose a bullet manufacturer and get a case seater that will match them exactly.  Currently, my dies are on loan from my brother in law, so it wouldn't be too big of a deal to just buy hornady ammo and dies.
10/18/2010 12:10:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Didn't know this...  I'll give that a try.  






Quoted:


Glad you bought RCBS! Call their CS tech support and they'll walk you through it. If you need a different seater plug they'll probably mail you one FREE.. Ifnot they'll diagnose theproblem for you. EXCELLENT CS with them.






 
10/18/2010 12:34:12 PM EDT
[#8]
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Didn't know this...  I'll give that a try.  


Quoted:
Glad you bought RCBS! Call their CS tech support and they'll walk you through it. If you need a different seater plug they'll probably mail you one FREE.. Ifnot they'll diagnose theproblem for you. EXCELLENT CS with them.


 


Anything to help out a team member! I had to use their CS a couple of times in the last couple months––offered to pay for repl. parts––they'd have none of it––it's in the mail.

I also know of a .45 seater die that got damaged and the plug was beyond bent––––they sent a whole new die NIB with no questions asked. I'm sticking with RCBS for most applications. Redding for the very high precision applications....
10/18/2010 12:45:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Thanks for the replies - I will post a pic when I get home from work.

This is interesting - I think the problem of the dies not matching the bullets is spot on.  I had wondered about the case not being flared enough to set the bullet in straight too.

I guess I need to choose a bullet manufacturer and get a case seater that will match them exactly.  Currently, my dies are on loan from my brother in law, so it wouldn't be too big of a deal to just buy hornady ammo and dies.


I have ONE set of Hornady dies that I bought new for $15 (30-06), tried it, it's ok but I use my RCBS 30-06 dies for the Garand exclusively. Also one of the Hornady techs is extremely uninformed on Lake City brass and gave misinformation to another reloader here.

I'll stick with RCBS
10/18/2010 2:06:16 PM EDT
[#10]
That's good to know - are Hornady presses still pretty good?
10/18/2010 3:18:01 PM EDT
[#11]
No experience on that end for hornady...I'd stick with RCBS or Dillon if wanting to go progressive sometime. With good equipment (especially powder measure and scale), you'll be all right. For my hand loads I do not skimp on the cheap side (albeit Hornady doesn't fall into the cheap side)...........
10/18/2010 9:04:02 PM EDT
[#12]
My fingers stay with bullet following full length of stroke to just until my fingers start to be pinched between bullet and die. Over belling case mouth works brass too much.
10/19/2010 6:50:46 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
My fingers stay with bullet following full length of stroke to just until my fingers start to be pinched between bullet and die. Over belling case mouth works brass too much.


Get an M die from Hornady.

While aimed at loading lead bullets, they reduce excessive brass working while producing a bell suitable for even lead.
10/19/2010 8:49:40 AM EDT
[#14]





Quoted:





Quoted:


My fingers stay with bullet following full length of stroke to just until my fingers start to be pinched between bullet and die. Over belling case mouth works brass too much.






Get an M die from Hornady.





While aimed at loading lead bullets, they reduce excessive brass working while producing a bell suitable for even lead.





You mean from Lyman?



http://www.lasc.us/Brennan_LymanMDies.htm





 
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