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5/4/2010 4:51:43 AM EDT
So I have been working up a load for my Kimber. I have been using Tight group I have a 200gr SWC Hardcast  bullet weighing at 195gr the load books states 4.8-5.4 for the 200gr . For the first loads I was at 5gr of Tight group. but it was not really shooting well . SO I decided to drop it back 4.8 and IMHO there was really not much difference from 5gr So I went to 4.5 . It worked fine .Do you guys think its a very bad idea ? I dont plan on going any lower but i am not sure if should I load at this or go to a different powder ?  

5/4/2010 5:39:55 AM EDT
[#1]
If it works fine stick with it
5/4/2010 5:51:28 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
So I have been working up a load for my Kimber. I have been using Tight group I have a 200gr SWC Hardcast  bullet weighing at 195gr the load books states 4.8-5.4 for the 200gr . For the first loads I was at 5gr of Tight group. but it was not really shooting well . SO I decided to drop it back 4.8 and IMHO there was really not much difference from 5gr So I went to 4.5 . It worked fine .Do you guys think its a very bad idea ? I dont plan on going any lower but i am not sure if should I load at this or go to a different powder ?  


What do you mean not shooting well?  Poor accuracy or function?  As long as your load reliably cycles the weapon you are fine.  For a plinking load I always go toward the min charge for savings and reduced recoil.
5/4/2010 6:41:50 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So I have been working up a load for my Kimber. I have been using Tight group I have a 200gr SWC Hardcast  bullet weighing at 195gr the load books states 4.8-5.4 for the 200gr . For the first loads I was at 5gr of Tight group. but it was not really shooting well . SO I decided to drop it back 4.8 and IMHO there was really not much difference from 5gr So I went to 4.5 . It worked fine .Do you guys think its a very bad idea ? I dont plan on going any lower but i am not sure if should I load at this or go to a different powder ?  


What do you mean not shooting well?  Poor accuracy or function?  As long as your load reliably cycles the weapon you are fine.  For a plinking load I always go toward the min charge for savings and reduced recoil.



This part in red. I made a load for my sig and I loved the recoil it was nice and not heavy at all but if you didn't have a good strong grip (gripping it harder than a normal shooting grip) then it wouldn't cycle properly and would jam. oh well so much for that load and moved onto a load that was more reliable.
5/4/2010 7:14:48 AM EDT
[#4]
Well, considering that your projectile is lighter than the listed one, you might be ok...

Personally, I wouldn't go any lower than listed, since I'm afraid of a round not making it out of the barrel...
5/4/2010 8:21:09 AM EDT
[#5]
Going very very light can be a problem with some loads if the powder lies flat in the case such that it "flashes over"... this can yield unsafe pressure spikes. This is pretty rare, and mostly a problem with the older black powder cartridge cases (like .45LC). This is one of the reasons IMI Trail Boss powder was developed for super-light cowboy loads. However, from your description, you should be a long way away from such a problem.
5/4/2010 6:41:22 PM EDT
[#6]
do not go lower than min on any H-110 load.  Bad Ju-Ju.
5/4/2010 6:47:31 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Quoted:






So I have been working up a load for my Kimber. I have been using Tight group I have a 200gr SWC Hardcast  bullet weighing at 195gr the load books states 4.8-5.4 for the 200gr . For the first loads I was at 5gr of Tight group. but it was not really shooting well . SO I decided to drop it back 4.8 and IMHO there was really not much difference from 5gr So I went to 4.5 . It worked fine .Do you guys think its a very bad idea ? I dont plan on going any lower but i am not sure if should I load at this or go to a different powder ?  







What do you mean not shooting well?  Poor accuracy or function?  As long as your load reliably cycles the weapon you are fine.  For a plinking load I always go toward the min charge for savings and reduced recoil.
It was not very accurate didnt seem to burn all the powder? Gun was a full size Kimber Eclipse Custom .
Originally
Posted By Mall-Ninja:







Well, considering that your projectile is lighter than the listed one,
you might be ok...
Personally, I wouldn't go any lower than
listed, since I'm afraid of a round not making it out of the barrel...






Yes it going about 800fps
Originally
Posted By ricky_arthur:






Quoted:


So I have been
working up a load for my Kimber. I have been using Tight group I have a
200gr SWC Hardcast  bullet weighing at 195gr the load books states
4.8-5.4 for the 200gr . For the first loads I was at 5gr of Tight group.
but it was not really shooting well . SO I decided to drop it back 4.8
and IMHO there was really not much difference from 5gr So I went to 4.5 .
It worked fine .Do you guys think its a very bad idea ? I dont plan on
going any lower but i am not sure if should I load at this or go to a
different powder ?  








What do you mean not shooting
well?  Poor accuracy or function?  As long as your load reliably cycles
the weapon you are fine.  For a plinking load I always go toward the min
charge for savings and reduced recoil.
Yes I also go toward the
min charge for savings and reduced
recoil for plinking loads but they have to shoot good !
Originally
Posted By nightwolf357:




Originally
Posted By ricky_arthur:



Originally
Posted By abpt1:

So I have been working up a load for my Kimber. I
have been using Tight group I have a 200gr SWC Hardcast  bullet weighing
at 195gr the load books states 4.8-5.4 for the 200gr . For the first
loads I was at 5gr of Tight group. but it was not really shooting well .
SO I decided to drop it back 4.8 and IMHO there was really not much
difference from 5gr So I went to 4.5 . It worked fine .Do you guys think
its a very bad idea ? I dont plan on going any lower but i am not sure
if should I load at this or go to a different powder ?  





What
do you mean not shooting well?  Poor accuracy or function?  As long as your load reliably cycles the weapon you
are fine
.  For a plinking load I always go toward the min charge
for savings and reduced recoil.






This part in red. I
made a load for my sig and I loved the recoil it was nice and not heavy
at all but if you didn't have a good strong grip (gripping it harder
than a normal shooting grip) then it wouldn't cycle properly and would
jam. oh well so much for that load and moved onto a load that was more
reliable.
10-4
Originally
Posted By StealthyBlagga:







Going very very light can be a problem with some loads if the powder
lies flat in the case such that it "flashes over"... this can yield
unsafe pressure spikes. This is pretty rare, and mostly a problem with
the older black powder cartridge cases (like .45LC). This is one of the
reasons IMI Trail Boss powder was developed for super-light cowboy
loads. However, from your description, you should be a long way away
from such a problem.
This was one of my main concerns .
Originally
Posted By chadjetlag:






do not go lower than min on any H-110 load.  Bad Ju-Ju.





Noted .

 
5/4/2010 6:56:05 PM EDT
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5/4/2010 6:56:52 PM EDT
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5/4/2010 7:04:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
do not go lower than min on any H-110 load.  Bad Ju-Ju.


+1.  And by the way, Winchester 296 is the same powder, so don't go lower on it too.
5/4/2010 7:35:35 PM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:



Quoted:

do not go lower than min on any H-110 load.  Bad Ju-Ju.




+1.  And by the way, Winchester 296 is the same powder, so don't go lower on it too.


also noted !
 
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