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4/14/2010 1:56:15 PM EDT
Just curious what you guys think about these. 2 on the outside are 24.5gr varget 70gr TSX's 2 middle are 24.5gr varget 75gr HPBT's All CCI-400 primers. I have about 50 of these loaded up and they seem a little flat and just wondering if you guys would just shoot the rest and go lower next time or pull them all. I know CCI-400's are thinner than all other primers, maybe I should use something different. Any suggestions would be great.

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Edit: Can anyone tell me what may be causing these dents? Just shot those 4 this weekend never did it on anything else before.

4/14/2010 2:07:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Getting close to the top end but not critical just yet IMHO, I have seen much worse.

I would shoot them.
4/14/2010 2:15:42 PM EDT
[#2]
The dents are probably from the cases hitting your brass deflector.  Nothing to worry about.
4/14/2010 2:20:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks a bunch guys!
4/14/2010 2:38:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Those dents are the load # meter!!!




Not really, as the brass doesn't always get dents when you fire them, but I have a few hundred PPU 08 cases with 5-6 dents in them, which makes it pretty easy to figure about how many times I've fired them!
4/14/2010 2:41:55 PM EDT
[#5]
I keep a self adhesive strip of the fuzzy side of velcro in my range bag. I will cut a fresh hunk every trip and stick it to the brass deflector to stop the dents.

Call me silly but it works
4/15/2010 4:13:36 AM EDT
[#6]
Flat primers can be a sign of high pressure, but it also occurs if primers are not seated slightly below flush.

I was occasionally getting a flattened primer with CCI 41's with mild loads using LC brass.
My LC have tighter primer pockets than most other brass I use.  That, combined with CCI 41's, makes proper seating difficult with my set-up.
4/15/2010 7:02:13 AM EDT
[#7]
I'd shoot them and not think twice about it. They are at the upper end but not enough for me to worry about.
4/15/2010 7:29:16 AM EDT
[#8]
I'd shoot them.  
The same load that will flatten a CCI400  won't do a thing to a Rem 7 1/2.
(25.0 Benchmark, 55gr FMJ, LC brass)

4/15/2010 10:23:47 AM EDT
[#9]
I would lower the charge a little next time around. The charge is moderate to moderatley high, for some reason you're getting pressure signs. Change primers and work up again or lower this charge by at least .3 grain and see if that fixes it.
4/15/2010 10:43:42 AM EDT
[#10]
That is not excessive flattening to me.  A little, but not excessive.

- AG
4/15/2010 11:19:32 AM EDT
[#11]
Pretty much same experience for me as well. Using same moderate loads (62gr SS107 over 24.5gr of TAC)

1. CCI-400             = appears excessively flat, sign of possible high pressure (almost like your pics)
2. Winchester SR = appears to be at normal pressure
3. CCI-41              = appears to have little space between pocket ridge and primer border (looks to be a lighter load in 23gr range)
4. WOLF .223 (newer batch)  =appears to have plenty of space between the pocket ridge and primer border (almost like under load), but wolf primer have unique more round shaped primers. So far my experience has been limited with these (<300rds) so I cant comment too much on these. But they seem to work well, also have slightly tighter fit.

*We all take some form of risk everyday, driving to work or even eating at Jack in the Box. But I do not take risk reloading. If these loads makes you feel funny and unsafe inside, back off few tenth of grain and be happy. Do what makes you feel safe, not what others tell you is safe.

HTH

4/15/2010 11:27:50 AM EDT
[#12]
It appears there is still a good bit of radius on the edges on the primers. Am I wrong in using that as a benchmark to say these are not "flat" primers?

Thanks
jonblack
4/15/2010 4:56:59 PM EDT
[#13]
Bleh!! My most accurate 308 loads look like that. Flat primer's can be caused by many thing's beside's too hot a load. Long headspace will flatten primer's in even mild loads for example. Chrono the loads don't exceed book max etc. When your AR's extractor rip's threw the rim and leave's the brass in the chamber And the spent primer falls out of the pocket your too hot  ......................................................You do have a Chronograph don't you!
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