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4/13/2010 3:04:07 AM EDT
I'm loading 38 special for cowboy shooting plinking....  158 lead over 4.1gr HP38 ...my question is how low can I go to not get any felt recoil out of my Rugers.....When I watch matches on TV ....they seem to not have any recoil at all......
4/13/2010 6:27:25 AM EDT
[#1]
My Vaquero CB load is 3 grains of Clays for 158 LRNFP, recoil is pretty light.

The ones your seeing with almost no recoil are probably loaded with Trail Boss, I haven't tried it yet but probably will soon.
4/13/2010 7:11:11 AM EDT
[#2]
Hodgdon lists 3.2grn of TiteGroup at 815fps and 2.7grn of Trailboss at 661fps for a 158grn lead bullet, however, some of our cowboy action shooters load them even lighter, like down in the 2.3-2.5grn range for TiteGroup and 2.0 and under for the Trailboss.  You really have to try out some loads to see what works in your pistol.

4/13/2010 11:56:26 AM EDT
[#3]
As low as you like.  When the bullet sticks in the barrel you will have no recoil at all.
4/13/2010 12:08:16 PM EDT
[#4]




Quoted:

As low as you like. When the bullet sticks in the barrel you will have no recoil at all.




LOL..............
4/13/2010 1:58:43 PM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


As low as you like.  When the bullet sticks in the barrel you will have no recoil at all.


No joke.  Some of our cowboy action shooters load them down so low that you can easily see the bullets leave the muzzle.  I shot a couple from my carbine a friend had loaded for his 5.5" bbl SAA and the bullets didn't travel 50yds before they hit the ground.



 
4/14/2010 6:14:53 PM EDT
[#6]
Go to lighter bullet like the 125 gr
4/14/2010 6:33:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Try some Trail Boss, it was designed for these light loads.

And go to a lighter bullet like a 125 gr.
4/15/2010 10:24:01 PM EDT
[#8]
Trail Boss meters like nasty pestilent cow patties.

I like Win 231 for light loads.  (I understand HP38 is the same stuff?) Green Dot works well too, but is a bit dirty loaded light.
4/16/2010 5:00:41 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm using 147 gr TC with 2.3 gr of Clays.  Light but you still have some push.
4/16/2010 1:49:45 PM EDT
[#10]
I use Clays with 2.9 - 3.0 grains and a 125 grain TC bullet. Works great and the plates ring
4/16/2010 5:56:33 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I'm loading 38 special for cowboy shooting plinking....  158 lead over 4.1gr HP38 ...my question is how low can I go to not get any felt recoil out of my Rugers.....When I watch matches on TV ....they seem to not have any recoil at all......


Try some Trail Boss. A starting load of Trail Boss in 38 special in my S&W 686 is like shooting a .22
4/16/2010 8:18:38 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm loading 38 special for cowboy shooting plinking....  158 lead over 4.1gr HP38 ...my question is how low can I go to not get any felt recoil out of my Rugers.....When I watch matches on TV ....they seem to not have any recoil at all......


Try some Trail Boss. A starting load of Trail Boss in 38 special in my S&W 686 is like shooting a .22


I do the same for mine and load 30-30 and 45-70 with it.  I use the largest clear drop tube on the powder measure and watch it carefully since it can bridge easily.
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