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2/9/2010 9:34:00 AM EDT
i have some 308/7.62 cases, and noticed a couple of them have several vertical grooves all the way around the shoulder

i thought they might be some kind of crimp, but that doesnt really make sense

so the question is, what are they?
2/9/2010 9:38:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Are they actual grooves or black (soot) stripes?

HK rifles have fluted chambers which leave longitudinal (vertical if the case is sitting on its base) soot stripes on the cases.
2/9/2010 9:38:49 AM EDT
[#2]
Pictures, M..... F..... ,
This thread is useless without pictures.
2/9/2010 10:09:10 AM EDT
[#3]
does they look like this?

2/9/2010 10:11:09 AM EDT
[#4]
or this?

2/9/2010 10:21:56 AM EDT
[#5]
I have some of those. After cleaning the soot you can see that the case actually expands into those grooves upon firing. They wont iron out when you size but they should after you fire them in a non fluted chamber.

ETA: be generous with the lube when you size, they can be a little tough
2/9/2010 11:32:23 AM EDT
[#6]


like that, but are only on the shoulder and neck



what are they for?

or were they just used in a fluted chamber? like the poster above said

and what rifle in the military uses a fluted chamber?
2/9/2010 12:37:07 PM EDT
[#7]
HK G3/Hk-91 types and derivatives
CETME in .308 have fluted chambers, IIRC.

The design is to help the autoloader continue to run in dirty conditions.
2/9/2010 1:56:46 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
HK G3/Hk-91 types and derivatives
CETME in .308 have fluted chambers, IIRC.

The design is to help the autoloader continue to run in dirty conditions.


i see,

thanks for the info guys
2/9/2010 2:59:23 PM EDT
[#9]
Clean them, size them, trim them, load them, shoot them maybe 1-4 more times.
2/9/2010 6:23:42 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
HK G3/Hk-91 types and derivatives
CETME in .308 have fluted chambers, IIRC.

The design is to help the autoloader continue to run in dirty conditions.


To be more accurate, it "floats" the neck and shoulder of the case, allowing for the HK roller-lock system to extract easily without the camming action of a rotating bolt system.  It also allows the gun to operate dirtier, but that's not the main reason.
2/9/2010 7:01:00 PM EDT
[#11]
I came across one of these the other day and didnt know what to think of it. I just followed my rule of when in doubt, recycle.
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