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Posted: 1/10/2010 8:31:55 AM EDT
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So I was looking into getting into reloading vs. buying a new rifle. I have been looking at the XL650. I want to buy one machine and just keep it, no need to upgrade later on.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. If I get the XL650, all I really need to do is: 1. Tumble the brass 2. Lube the brass 3. Have the deprime die on station 1, and a 1200b trimmer on station 4 and then I just run all my brass through 4. Then just load as per manuals |
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First before you buy a pc of hardware, you need software. The ABC's of Reloading is the BIBLE! Buy it or check a copy at library. Read it! Then read it again!
There is more to rifle brass prep then your condensed list suggests. I would second the idea of 550. Feeding prepped cases to a 550 is going to give you a decent rate of production after the learning curve has been covered. I would get the Giraud Trimmer instead of the Dillon Trimmer. You have to inspect the cases, deal with other hands on issues like crimped primer pockets. You still have to load primers and monitor powder levels. If straight walled handgun ammo is your only goal then a 650 might be a good choice, but you need the case feeder to make it sign |
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These threads have a great ammount of 650 info.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=301001 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=299603 Just did a quick search for 650. 
Note, anyone can use the search function in the Reloading Forum. 
eta, another thread, http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=272661 |
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These threads have a great ammount of 650 info. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=301001 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=299603 Just did a quick search for 650.
Note, anyone can use the search function in the Reloading Forum.
eta, another thread, http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=272661 fixed links
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These threads have a great ammount of 650 info. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=301001 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=299603 Just did a quick search for 650.
Note, anyone can use the search function in the Reloading Forum.
eta, another thread, http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=272661 fixed links
link 1 link 2 link 3 Thanks, I fixed them. |
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So I was looking into getting into reloading vs. buying a new rifle. I have been looking at the XL650. I want to buy one machine and just keep it, no need to upgrade later on. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If I get the XL650, all I really need to do is: 1. Tumble the brass 2. Lube the brass 3. Have the deprime die on station 1, and a 1200b trimmer on station 4 and then I just run all my brass through 4. Then just load as per manuals I had a 550 before the 650 and wished i had purchased the 650 the first go around..... If you have loaded on a single stage press or turret press and understand the fundamentals of reloading, i would buy a 650 hands down, but it sounds you have little experience from what you said in your post............ sooooooooooo....... i would recomend to partner up with an experienced reloader or buy a single stage/turret press......unless you are mechanically inclined IMHO the 550 is almost the same as a 650 other than automatic indexing and an extra station for the powder check.
IMHO.....I would not replace the powder check for the 1200 trimmer.Instead i would buy a seperate toolhead (like i have done) as well as a universal decapping die, and do that on a seperate operation for a couple of reasons. 1. The vacuum attachment does not always get the brass shavings out and sometimes the shavings can get stringy...thus staying inside the case. 2. If you are big on "no burrs" on your cases like i am, you will need to deburr them anyway 3. If you are reloading military brass, you will need to remove the military crimp on the primer pockets. 4. I strongly recomend a powder check.... I have my TRIMMING TOOLHEAD setup as follows but i still deburr if required or needed: Station #1 - Dillon universal decapping die Station #3 - RT1200 trimmer Station #5 - RCBS neck sizing die (setup to just help remove burr) Then i swage the primer pockets if needed in the miltary brass and run them thru my tumbler again in walnut media 
I have my FINAL TOOLHEAD setup as follows: Station #1 - Dillon size/deprime die to remove any polishing media from the flash holes as well as size any brass i may have possibly missed just to be safe Station #2 - Dillon powder measure to charge case and prime on the upstroke Station #3 - Dillon powder check Station #4 - Dillon seating die Station #5 - Dillon crimp die Everyone has thier own way of setting up a press or reloading in general, and that method is determined for the type of load//rifle/accuracy you will be loading for....so i suggest you research as much as you possible can and don't be afraid to ask questions when you have doubt.....I have been there myself Goodluck and i hope this tidbit of info helped you with your decision
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