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Posted: 5/23/2009 5:08:07 PM EDT
I was wondering how far to seat these bullets when I go to load them. Also I have 2 of the bullets that have a gouge in them and am wondering if I should load these 2. Oh almost forgot to add these would be for my 308 most likely using LC brass.
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So what is the point? You can load (spend all the time worrying about those, and all the effort reloading and putting more mileage on your refurbished brass) and for what?
Even if I lost my job or economy got worse, I would hesitate to load that bullet you show in the photograph. I hope those are the only two you have that look like that. If you need some better bullets and are situated to have to seriously consider using or not using those two you show, I am sure there are some rich dudes on here like AeroE that would send you some good 168 SMK's. I would even consider matching his contribution. 
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Wanted - Spare change from the cushions in your furniture and automobiles.
I have a daughter entering college, her car got rear ended and trashed today, and the other kid is going to need something to drive soon and she can't have my pickup. I might have to raise money by selling primers. |
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Well there were only 2 that I found so far with gouges like that on them, so far that is. other than that the only other marks on them is the pull marks.
also I only have 300 or so of these particular projectiles, only going to load a few to find a decent load for the rest and then store the rest in my non existant stash I am going to start to create. going to be a while though as I am pretty much broke, wife is unemployed, and with components really pricey...... its gonna be a while, maybe at the next tax return I can purchase some components. Heck all I have atm to be able to load is 2K LC brass, about 1500 40 brass, 2 pounds of powder, just under 600 LR primers, 1K SPM primers I can't use, 500 projectiles for the 40 and less than 1K of projectiles for the 308. 
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| Personally for bolt guns I start loads at .030" off the lands and go from there with charges and seating depth. If you do not know how to determine where the lands are for a particular bullet then just load to the recommended max and you will be fine. In this case it is usually, but not always, 2.8" for the .308. You will probably be able to load longer to fit the magazine but that does not mean you will be off the lands in any particular rifle. I have rifles that go both ways in that respect. Bolt guns are different in respect to seating depth than AR's. |
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ASSUMING that the dia. of your bullet is correct (not to mention the weight range).
See the cannelure? Well, most bullet mfns put it there with the "idea" that you will crimp it in the groove (cannelure). So, is that a good place to start? What do you think? But then......no one says you HAVE TO. Aloha, Mark |
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My friend loads his 7mm rem magnum bolt rifle with 162 gr Hornady SST's for hunting deer. He sets the cannelure for this round out ahead of the casing mouth, and no neck crimp.
I asked Hornady about this, and if one could get the SST's or SST performance without the cannelure. I mentioned one can get the Hornady A-Max, which looks like the SST on the outside, without the cannelure. Their answer was no. The cannelure for the SST round was developed for a particular configuration and not general use. The SST was designed and constructed internally for medium to large game hunting, not so with the A-Max. (I should note, some reloaders say the A-Max makes an OK hunting round as well). Also, the person on the phone said the "unused" cannelure SST configuration in the 7mm Mag. that my friend uses was good to go. It seems the folks at Hornady believe if you can develop sufficient neck tension WITHOUT CRIMPING into the cannelure and use a bolt gun, that is sufficient. |
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Thanks for the replies guys, The primary reason I am asking is because I know the bottom of the projectile will be extending into the case a bit more than another bullet of similar weight. "Hint" I removed the paint from the tip........  Use caution when working up a load with these bullets. Remember the inside of the bullet is unlike the ones in the reloading manuals. In 308, Mil cases, I got to a max load pretty quickly. I seated bullets to mid cannelure and crimped. I lost these loads and loading notes in a tragic boating accident. 
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Thanks for the replies guys, The primary reason I am asking is because I know the bottom of the projectile will be extending into the case a bit more than another bullet of similar weight. "Hint" I removed the paint from the tip........ Hmmmmmm....I guess we will know you've gone live, when we get reports of mysterious cornfield fires in Illinois. 
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