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Posted: 4/22/2009 11:14:40 PM EDT
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So I am new to reloading and am the proud owner of a Dillon 550B progressive press. I was looking for all the stuff I would need to reload straight walled handgun ammunition, starting with the .357 magnum, and hey, the press is set up for it already anyways. I have Winchester ball 296 powder which is used in the .410 bore shotgun and also is used in Winchester factory loaded .357 rounds. I also wanted to load 9mm and .380ACP rounds, and probably .45ACP (hell, I have the conversion kit already). I will eventually reload rifle, mainly .308 and .223 but I know that it is harder and you need case lube to do so. So I found a site www.midsouthshooterssupply.com that looks like it has everything I need at the best cost. So I am going to buy a scale:
SMART RELOADER750 GRAIN MICRO SCALE W TRICKLER a tumbler to clean brass and 10 lbs of corn cob media: LYMAN 600 TURBO TUMBLER W/ MEDIA 110V LYMAN CORNCOB MEDIA 10LB Some powder to be able to load other calibers besides the .357 magnum (such as .380, 9mm, .45, maybe .40): WESTERN & ACCURATE POWDER ACCURATE NO. 5 8LB Some digital calipers to measure the case length, which are currently on backorder: HORNADY/PACIFIC RELOADING TOOLSDIGITAL CALIPER Some case lube when I decide to start with the .223 and other rifle cartridges: HORNADY/PACIFIC RELOADING TOOLS UNIQUE CASE LUBE 8 OZ I can always get this when I get the additional stuff to reload rifle ammo, isn't there a better choice anyways for lubing cases? A tray to flip primers for convenience, also on backorder unfortunately: LYMAN PRIMER TRAY And a case trimmer for different caliber since from what I understand, the cases will lengthen as they are fired and the gases expand: LYMAN UNIVERSAL TRIMMER W/ 9 PILOT MULTI-PACK Not getting since reloading straight walled handgun only for now Is this selection of tools good for reloading? Do I absolutely need the case trimmer or can I just pick cases that are within specifications for now? Is the smart reloader scale any good? It comes with everything you need including the calibration weights. Let me know your thoughts on my selection. |
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Read this post then cross stuff off the list one by one as you put it in your shopping cart http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=486 |
| Id say pass on the case trimmer,at least until you start loading for rifles,me personaly I would rather pop for new brass than trim cases that have been stressed out of spec.I am no pro or by any means an authority on reloading so i tend to stay on the safe side. |
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Read this post then cross stuff off the list one by one as you put it in your shopping cart http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=486 Well, the trimmer is off the list. Don't I still need the calipers even if I'm reloading handgun ammunition? I have several hundred cases that are still primed, not tumbled, and once fired plus I will have the ones I shoot up. I'll get rid of the case lube for now since I am not doing rifle, it's hard enough to do handgun ammo safely, never mind efficiently or to make quality rounds. I need the powder of course since the 296 ball powder that I have is not recommended for a 9mm or a .380 and those rounds are the most important to me, even more than the .357, which I am just starting with. Quoted:
Get an 03 FFL (C&R) for additional discounts MidwayUSA I am in the process of getting a 01 FFL, what would an 03 do for me? I know with an 07 the ATF told me that I would be able to manufacture ammunition for resale, but can't I just get a separate license to manufacture ammunition if I so desire in the future? I don't think that's a good idea anyways though because it is too much of a liability; need some good insurance to sell reloaded ammunition or even ammunition with new components that you loaded yourself.
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At a bare minimum, buy some of the Lee case trimmers for the straight wall cases. They do need occasional trimming/uniforming otherwise you end up with some cases that will get too much crimp, some just right, and others with not enough or none. They're cheap and don't require any adjustment. The Lyman trimmer you selected is what I use, and it works really well.
Be sure to buy carbide dies for the straight wall cases, otherwise you'll need case lube. I would also suggest a much larger tumbler. The Lyman 2500 doesn't cost much more and has significantly more capacity(1k .38 cases versus 175 .38 cases with the 600). With a progressive, you're going to need to be able to process a lot of brass in a short time. Order some Dillon Spray lube for the rifle stuff. Quick and easy to apply, wait 5 minutes, and start processing/loading brass. |
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Read this post then cross stuff off the list one by one as you put it in your shopping cart http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=486 Well, the trimmer is off the list. Don't I still need the calipers even if I'm reloading handgun ammunition? I have several hundred cases that are still primed, not tumbled, and once fired plus I will have the ones I shoot up. I'll get rid of the case lube for now since I am not doing rifle, it's hard enough to do handgun ammo safely, never mind efficiently or to make quality rounds. I need the powder of course since the 296 ball powder that I have is not recommended for a 9mm or a .380 and those rounds are the most important to me, even more than the .357, which I am just starting with. I would recommend something other than 296 to start loading .357 with. It's intended for full on magnum loads and, IIRC, doesn't tolerate charge weight variations very well. About 98% of my .357 loading is done with Alliant 2400, also a magnum powder, but numerous powders work well. Unless you're looking for max velocities(full power mag loads aren't all that pleasant to shoot, at least to me), Accurate #5 or #7 will work well. #5 also works pretty well in .38 Special, 45 ACP, and will work reasonably well for 9mm and .380. From the manual I'm reading right now, #7 is at the top of the list for .380 and 9mm. Quoted:
Get an 03 FFL (C&R) for additional discounts MidwayUSA I am in the process of getting a 01 FFL, what would an 03 do for me? I know with an 07 the ATF told me that I would be able to manufacture ammunition for resale, but can't I just get a separate license to manufacture ammunition if I so desire in the future? I don't think that's a good idea anyways though because it is too much of a liability; need some good insurance to sell reloaded ammunition or even ammunition with new components that you loaded yourself.
If you're already getting an 01 FFL, you'll get the same discounts as an 03 FFL would. A lot of the supply houses give discounts to people with an FFL. |
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Read this post then cross stuff off the list one by one as you put it in your shopping cart http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=486 Well, the trimmer is off the list. Don't I still need the calipers even if I'm reloading handgun ammunition? Yes you will need calipers for pistol or rifle reloading. You will need them for adjusting your seating die to get the correct OAL of the loaded round. I have several hundred cases that are still primed, not tumbled, and once fired plus I will have the ones I shoot up. I'll get rid of the case lube for now since I am not doing rifle, it's hard enough to do handgun ammo safely, never mind efficiently or to make quality rounds. I need the powder of course since the 296 ball powder that I have is not recommended for a 9mm or a .380 and those rounds are the most important to me, even more than the .357, which I am just starting with. Quoted:
Get an 03 FFL (C&R) for additional discounts MidwayUSA I am in the process of getting a 01 FFL, what would an 03 do for me? I know with an 07 the ATF told me that I would be able to manufacture ammunition for resale, but can't I just get a separate license to manufacture ammunition if I so desire in the future? I don't think that's a good idea anyways though because it is too much of a liability; need some good insurance to sell reloaded ammunition or even ammunition with new components that you loaded yourself. ![]() |
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At a bare minimum, buy some of the Lee case trimmers for the straight wall cases. They do need occasional trimming/uniforming otherwise you end up with some cases that will get too much crimp, some just right, and others with not enough or none. They're cheap and don't require any adjustment. The Lyman trimmer you selected is what I use, and it works really well. Be sure to buy carbide dies for the straight wall cases, otherwise you'll need case lube. I would also suggest a much larger tumbler. The Lyman 2500 doesn't cost much more and has significantly more capacity(1k .38 cases versus 175 .38 cases with the 600). With a progressive, you're going to need to be able to process a lot of brass in a short time. Order some Dillon Spray lube for the rifle stuff. Quick and easy to apply, wait 5 minutes, and start processing/loading brass. Lee case trimmers? These are like a drill bit no? Thanks for the advice on the tumber, I will definitely get a 2500, it's 71.65 vs 52.30 and even if you're not doing volume reloading, definitely helps if you're lazy What I would really love to know is the Smart Reloader Scale good enough, doesn't have to be perfect; or is it a piece of junk? Seems like a good value with all the stuff it comes with, if so; I think I'm ready to buy. +1 on the Dillon spray lube, I knew in the back of my mind I was looking for the wrong stuff, in a video I saw where they were actually reloading handgun cartridges with carbide dies I think (it was made in 1992), they chose to lube them anyways and they just put all the brass in a box sprayed them with a can and shook the box around, I will get that with the rifle stuff. Somebody mentioned to use new brass instead of trimming stretched out fired brass but if I'm firing expensive .308 XM80 or .223 XM193 casing, I am saving them, I'll at least resell them if I don't reload them. Hell, I might even save the steel case wolf .223 since it is boxer primed, that would be reloadable, right? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Read this post then cross stuff off the list one by one as you put it in your shopping cart http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=486 Well, the trimmer is off the list. Don't I still need the calipers even if I'm reloading handgun ammunition? I have several hundred cases that are still primed, not tumbled, and once fired plus I will have the ones I shoot up. I'll get rid of the case lube for now since I am not doing rifle, it's hard enough to do handgun ammo safely, never mind efficiently or to make quality rounds. I need the powder of course since the 296 ball powder that I have is not recommended for a 9mm or a .380 and those rounds are the most important to me, even more than the .357, which I am just starting with. Quoted: Get an 03 FFL (C&R) for additional discounts MidwayUSA I am in the process of getting a 01 FFL, what would an 03 do for me? I know with an 07 the ATF told me that I would be able to manufacture ammunition for resale, but can't I just get a separate license to manufacture ammunition if I so desire in the future? I don't think that's a good idea anyways though because it is too much of a liability; need some good insurance to sell reloaded ammunition or even ammunition with new components that you loaded yourself. ![]() With an 03 FFL (C&R) most places give dealer discounts. Since you are obtaining an 01 FFL you're covered. You must be planning to sell firearms with the 01 FFL. I had an 01 FFL when they were easy to get, but never sold firearms. The 03 serves my needs. |
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Well I ordered the powder, the scale, some .44 magnum brass, the lyman 2500 turbo tumbler, 10 lbs of corn cob media, the digital calibers, and the primer tray (the last two were backordered). I chose the option to have them ship everything when the calipers and the tray comes in but I think I'll cancel that, have them ship everything out, and buy those 2 somewhere else.
I think I'll buy the calipers and the flip tray from Midway US, are the Frankford Arsenal 6" electronic calipers any good? How about the Hornady primer turning tray? I have to buy some .50AE brass and dies from them anyways, I assume this Hornady 3-die .50 AE set is carbide, although it doesn't mention it. |
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Well I ordered the powder, the scale, some .44 magnum brass, the lyman 2500 turbo tumbler, 10 lbs of corn cob media, the digital calibers, and the primer tray (the last two were backordered). I chose the option to have them ship everything when the calipers and the tray comes in but I think I'll cancel that, have them ship everything out, and buy those 2 somewhere else. I think I'll buy the calipers and the flip tray from Midway US, are the Frankford Arsenal 6" electronic calipers any good? How about the Hornady primer turning tray? I have to buy some .50AE brass and dies from them anyways, I assume this Hornady 3-die .50 AE set is carbide, although it doesn't mention it. I have 2 of the frankford calipers. No problem out of them. Midway had them on sale a month or so ago. |
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