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Posted: 4/7/2009 4:00:39 PM EDT
Set everything out night before, set up dies filled the powder drop, etc. to load the following day. Loaded 350 rounds of .223 55gr FMJ, didn't want to take the remaining 50 primers out and have a half full sleeve so i decied to wait until today and start developing a load with 55gr SP. Got the correct bullets down and started recording brass, powder, PRIMER etc i was using and something hit me why were the small pistol primers laying on the bench!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how could i miss this twice WTF.
so the dilema 350 rounds with CCI 500 small pistol primers in a rifle cartridge. save the powder and projectile and scrap the brass? What's the difference in small pistol and small rifle primers? <Title edit. Please don't use the F-word in thread titles. ––tbk1> |
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I wouldn't say it was a major fuck up but only because you caught it before you shot them. It would have been a major fuck up if you would have shot them and hurt your self or firearms. This would be a major inconvenience.
I would pull bullets dump powder de-prime (very carefully) and start over. |
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I've use a decapping die to deprime at least 1000 cases of live primers for one reason or another and I've never had a mishap that resulted in either the primer being damaged or going off. Go easy, don't slam the handle down to punch out the primers and you should be fine.
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Quoted: you should probably go ahead and resize them as wellI've use a decapping die to deprime at least 1000 cases of live primers for one reason or another and I've never had a mishap that resulted in either the primer being damaged or going off. Go easy, don't slam the handle down to punch out the primers and you should be fine. |
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so the dilema 350 rounds with CCI 400 small pistol primers in a rifle cartridge. UHhh, CCI-400 is small rifle primers, and you used them in a rifle case,,, no problem there.... CCI-500 is small pistol primer, I use them all the time save the powder and projectile and scrap the brass? No, if you indeed used CCI-400, you have used the correct primer for .223/556 |
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Good catch! Quoted: Quoted: so the dilema 350 rounds with CCI 400 small pistol primers in a rifle cartridge. UHhh, CCI-400 is small rifle primers, and you used them in a rifle case,,, no problem there.... CCI-500 is small pistol primer, I use them all the time save the powder and projectile and scrap the brass? No, if you indeed used CCI-400, you have used the correct primer for .223/556 |
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OK, I'm thanking God because i did catch it soon enough. De-prime? i have a RCBS de-primer that's in press now on station 1 to punch out anything in flash hole. What's the chance of a primer going off?  Just go slow and easy. Remember you are depriming them backwards from the anvil side. Probably don't have to tell you, but wear eye and hearing protection while depriming. Hope you have a collet bullet puller, it will make pulling the bullets so much easier. |
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Just a suggestion, don't get a large build up of live primers in the catcher, chances are you won't set one off, but if one did go off it might create a chain reaction. I would dump the expelled primer catcher often. Not "probably"....more like "will". I wish I had the link but somewhere I heard about someone who had a bunch store in like a baby food jar or something and they went KB! |
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OK, i'm thanking God because i did catch it soon enough. De-prime? i have a RCBS de-primer thats in press now on station 1 to punch out anything in flash hole. What's the chance of a primer going off? Check this out (about pulling down ammo)....... http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2006/tworeloadingtools/index.asp Aloha, Mark |
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so the dilema 350 rounds with CCI 400 small pistol primers in a rifle cartridge. UHhh, CCI-400 is small rifle primers, and you used them in a rifle case,,, no problem there.... CCI-500 is small pistol primer, I use them all the time save the powder and projectile and scrap the brass? No, if you indeed used CCI-400, you have used the correct primer for .223/556 edited for my second mistake |
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have the hornady puller so that won't be a problem, just time consumming.
Does anyone know what makes a small rifle primer different from a small pistol? i'm assuming it would ignite hotter, being pistol powder is a faster burning powder than rifle in general and wanting a quicker burn rate |
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have the hornady puller so that won't be a problem, just time consumming. Does anyone know what makes a small rifle primer different from a small pistol? i'm assuming it would ignite hotter, being pistol powder is a faster burning powder than rifle in general and wanting a quicker burn rate I wouldn't make a sweeping generalization about what a mfn will do or what spec. he'll use to produce a product. Example: Different mixtures for their primer compound. or One may have a thicker cup. But, maybe another company might achieve the same results with a different alloy cup that might be thinner? _____________________ So............anyway, you might find this interesting................. Side by Side/ Brand against Brand……Comparison of Measurements http://www.jamescalhoon.com/primers_and_pressure.php More Primer Measurements http://www.radomski.us/njhp/cart_tech.htm ______________________ Then, who's to say that the specs haven't changed? And, what about lot to lot variations? Oh well........... Aloha, Mark |
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I would NOT shoot them.... unless you want to single load them.
There was a thread, last week maybe, where a guy ran a test using pistol primers to see what would happen. He said his gun ran full auto for 2-3 rounds each time. Other than that... I don't recall him saying there were any other issues.... though, that's a pretty big one! 
Here it is.... First post... |
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decided to pull everything. no sense of someone or myself getting hurt even if it wasn't b.c. of my mistake my luck it would point to it. also it will be a very painful reminder to check my components before and after. (Also wouldn't want to waste the $$ i have invested in this weapon)
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