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3/29/2009 12:39:36 PM EDT
I saw this in GD a few weeks back and from what I remember a MOD was talking to the author about tacking it here in the reloading forum.  I have been looking for it for a few days and even googled it (before anyone asks).  I'm planning to start reloading pretty soon, but money is tight so this is the route I'm taking.  It was really informative, so if anyone has any idea where it went a link would be much appreciated.
3/29/2009 3:18:11 PM EDT
[#1]
I converted the thread into a tutorial last week, but something is wrong with the resource links.

Try this direct link.  If it doesn't work, I will grab the original thread.

http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=595

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=844952


As neat as this little load looks, you will be light years ahead by spending a little more to get a LEE hand press.  It's a tool that will always serve you, and the dies can be used later if you addd a bench mounted press, too.  But I'm not going to tell anyone that the Classic press is not right for their needs, and there are a number of people on this site that loaded with one for a long time before getting a press.


3/29/2009 6:03:27 PM EDT
[#2]
See this link for a video. There are many vids on u-toob
3/29/2009 6:39:20 PM EDT
[#3]

OK.....so, I've been thinking (dangerous).

Assuming, that I'd want more safety than just dipping powder and I'd like to expand someday to more than just one caliber. What would I do IF I had a limited budget?

So........the Classic LEE Loader ($23.39). It can only be use with one caliber. It will only neck size cases, it's slow and I'll need to get a scale (for more safety) and I'll need a better way to handle powder. Anyway, I'll pass.

Then, the Lee Hand Press Kit #90179 ($34.95).........it's a little better. Though I'd prefer a bench mounted press for ease of use. And, I would still have to buy dies ($22.59), powder handling equipment (scale and measure/hopper), and brass trimming equipment. I had one, once.......what a PIA. IMHO, bench mounted is the way to go.

Hmmm........so, maybe the Lee Reloader Press w/ free manual #90700 ($27.79)..........well, it's a bench mounted "C" press and that's OK. But I'll still need dies ($22.59), a scale ($24.99) and powder measure/hopper ($23.39). Then, a primer tool ($10.19) and brass trimming tools ($5.39 cutter/holder & $4.59 length gauge). But, I'm already up to $118.93 and still short some small items.

Next up........the Lee Breech Lock Press 50th Anniversary Kit #90050 ($88.99).......it's a standard press and it comes with a scale, powder measure/hopper, primer seater tool, plus a few extras. Sounds like everything except for the dies ($22.59) and brass trimming case length gauge ($4.59). Total $116.17 w/o shipping.

Or, the kit that I prefer........the Lee Breech Lock Press Challenger Kit #90030 ($100.79).......it's just like the 50th Anniversary Kit but it has a separate hand primer tool w/ a variety of shell holders. Then, I'll need to add dies ($22.59) and brass trimming case length gauge ($4.59). Total $127.97 w/o shipping.

I could add a LEE manual ($12.99) or I could just use the supplied data sheet that comes with the LEE dies.

BTW, LEE prices vary, so shop around. And, I'm not mentioning where I saw these prices (as of 12-5-08) because, the seller was "out of stock" on some of the items mentioned.

And, there is always USED equipment.

HTH.

Aloha, Mark

PS…….I picked LEE for this example, only because, they make good inexpensive products. It's not meant as an endorsement over any of the other brand(s) out there in the market.


When loading for a semi-auto.......you want to ensure the ammo is F/L re-sized.  Not just neck sized......though YMWV so, it may still work.

IMHO.......look for a slightly longer term solution.

Aloha, Mark

PS............I also had these saved.........Re-loading on the Cheap

www.beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/archive_tech_notes.htm/51  

Not for AR15 semi-auto ammo

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=263904




3/29/2009 7:01:02 PM EDT
[#4]
If you're thinking about the LEE Hand Press...........

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=275265


Aloha, Mark



3/29/2009 9:26:49 PM EDT
[#5]
Wow guys.  Thanks for all the responses.  I have been looking into getting into reloading for ten years but never got around to it.  But now after I lost my job and the price of ammo being so high I think the classic loader is the way I'm gonna go.  I just don't have the resources to do this any other way so the cheapest route will be the one I take first and will try to work my way up from there.  Will this come with recommendations for powder/primers/bullets or should I look into a reloading manual?
3/30/2009 8:28:57 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Wow guys.  Thanks for all the responses.  I have been looking into getting into reloading for ten years but never got around to it.  But now after I lost my job and the price of ammo being so high I think the classic loader is the way I'm gonna go.  I just don't have the resources to do this any other way so the cheapest route will be the one I take first and will try to work my way up from there.  Will this come with recommendations for powder/primers/bullets or should I look into a reloading manual?



I don't know for sure..........but, IF you're gonna buy the kit..........look and read everything that comes with it.

The Classic LEE Loader kit comes with a single powder dipper.  

A single powder dipper doesn't give you much flexability with the amount and/or type of powder that'll be correct for the caliber that you want to load for.

A pre-printed chart is usually included.  It'll tell you how much powder is being dropped by the dipper.  It's not really "accurate".........well, just say that a scale is more accurate vs. a pre-printed chart.   And, OK.....technique is involved.  Some are just better then others at "the technique."

Then because, of the limited flexability with powder dropped/thrown.............well, you're gonna be limited with bullet weights.

It's a whole bunch of compromise with only one dipper.

But you could up grade.  There is a dipper kit that offers more flexability.

Or.............

You may just want to spend the money on a powder measure and scale.

Aloha, Mark

PS..........again, know that it'll only "neck size."  So, for a bolt gun it's OK. But, IF your rifle (AR15) doesn't like it.........you're out X dollars.
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I understand that money is tight.    

But, seriously consider..........USED EQUIPMENT.

I started with used equipment.  The guy who sold it to me, threw in some extras.  Afterall, he was getting out.  And, that used equipment is still working, 30 years later.





3/30/2009 12:20:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Here's one article:http://surplusrifle.com/reviews2006/leeturretpress/index.asp
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